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Noel Burton-Krahn
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Piston Cloud Computing





On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Erik Weber <terbol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What do you need a cmp for at all?
>
> What are your technical requirements? Hypervisor? Do you expect the cmp to
> configure the network hardware or storage?
> 6. juni 2014 08:00 skrev "hossein zabolzadeh" <zabolza...@gmail.com>
> følgende:
>
>>
>> *My short list of requirement is:*
>> - Legacy Stateful Application on my VMs
>> - No time to change the application code base(to convert them as
>> stateless apps which are work better on openstack)
>> - Completely opensource solution(HA in openstack need "stratus allways on
>> cloud" solution or something like that, which are not opensource)
>> - High amount of code stability
>> - Enterprise proven solution
>> - Better siute for private cloud instead of public
>> - High amount of HA, fault tolerance, resiliency in underlying layers
>> *By the aim of these requirement description, what about the decision
>> between OpenStack & CloudStack?*
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:29 PM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Paul for your responce.
>>> But, My case was not a few server in small server room. I have been
>>> talked about a huge datacenter with more than 1000 server, SAN storage
>>> devices, complex physical networks and so on, with high amount of change in
>>> IT needs.
>>> Yes you right. Sorry for my miss-typping. My mean was "I don't want
>>> *public* cloud". In other words "I don't want to deliver *public*
>>> cloud". I want to use private cloud on my datacenter. But becasue of my
>>> in-ability to change my legacy application codebase, the datacenter
>>> virtualization is better matched to my requirements, instead of
>>> infrastructure provisioning cloud solution(e.g. OpenStack), which focused
>>> more on new future applications(stateless apps). I need high availability,
>>> fault-tolerance, resiliancy and so on, all in my infrastrructure level, not
>>> on the application itself. And now, what is the best matched one for me to
>>> select???
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:13 PM, CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hossein zabolzadeh wrote:
>>>> >I want to fully virtualize my datacenter. I don't want cloud. I don't
>>>> want to deliver
>>>> >public cloud. I have several legacy appliacation that I want to run
>>>> all of them on
>>>> >virtualized environment. I want to leverage the virtualization
>>>> technology to improve
>>>> >my datacenter consolidation, ease of meintenace, ease of management
>>>> with
>>>> >increase in capacity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you don’t want cloud and don’t need cloud then don’t look at
>>>> CloudStack or OpenStack. There’s no need to be buzzword compliant. Just use
>>>> ESXi (with or without vCenter), or use KVM or Xen directly. After you’ve
>>>> virtualized your infrastructure either one of two things will happen:
>>>>
>>>> 1) You’ll realize that you really did want cloud, but now you’ll
>>>> understand why and you won’t just be doing it for buzzword’s sake
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> 2) You’ll be perfectly happy because you were actually right that all
>>>> you wanted was to virtualize a few servers. You’re done and you didn’t make
>>>> yourself miserable by implementing something you really didn’t want or need
>>>>
>>>> Not everybody needs a cloud platform. Certainly not everybody needs to
>>>> build their own cloud platform internal to their company. If you’re IT
>>>> needs are big enough and rapidly changing enough to actually need cloud
>>>> then you wouldn’t be posting to an OpenStack mailing list that “I don’t
>>>> want cloud” unless of course you don’t actually know your IT needs well
>>>> enough. And if you don’t know your IT needs well enough to understand on a
>>>> technical basis why you need OpenStack (or CloudStack or vCloud or etc)
>>>> then you need to go back and figure out your own IT needs before proceeding
>>>> further.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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