Any Idea???
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:16 AM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> wrote: > > *My short list of requirement is:* > - Legacy Stateful Application on my VMs > - No time to change the application code base(to convert them as stateless > apps which are work better on openstack) > - Completely opensource solution(HA in openstack need "stratus allways on > cloud" solution or something like that, which are not opensource) > - High amount of code stability > - Enterprise proven solution > - Better siute for private cloud instead of public > - High amount of HA, fault tolerance, resiliency in underlying layers > *By the aim of these requirement description, what about the decision > between OpenStack & CloudStack?* > > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:29 PM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks Paul for your responce. >> But, My case was not a few server in small server room. I have been >> talked about a huge datacenter with more than 1000 server, SAN storage >> devices, complex physical networks and so on, with high amount of change in >> IT needs. >> Yes you right. Sorry for my miss-typping. My mean was "I don't want >> *public* cloud". In other words "I don't want to deliver *public* >> cloud". I want to use private cloud on my datacenter. But becasue of my >> in-ability to change my legacy application codebase, the datacenter >> virtualization is better matched to my requirements, instead of >> infrastructure provisioning cloud solution(e.g. OpenStack), which focused >> more on new future applications(stateless apps). I need high availability, >> fault-tolerance, resiliancy and so on, all in my infrastrructure level, not >> on the application itself. And now, what is the best matched one for me to >> select??? >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:13 PM, CARVER, PAUL <pc2...@att.com> wrote: >> >>> hossein zabolzadeh wrote: >>> >I want to fully virtualize my datacenter. I don't want cloud. I don't >>> want to deliver >>> >public cloud. I have several legacy appliacation that I want to run all >>> of them on >>> >virtualized environment. I want to leverage the virtualization >>> technology to improve >>> >my datacenter consolidation, ease of meintenace, ease of management with >>> >increase in capacity. >>> >>> >>> If you don’t want cloud and don’t need cloud then don’t look at >>> CloudStack or OpenStack. There’s no need to be buzzword compliant. Just use >>> ESXi (with or without vCenter), or use KVM or Xen directly. After you’ve >>> virtualized your infrastructure either one of two things will happen: >>> >>> 1) You’ll realize that you really did want cloud, but now you’ll >>> understand why and you won’t just be doing it for buzzword’s sake >>> >>> or >>> >>> 2) You’ll be perfectly happy because you were actually right that all >>> you wanted was to virtualize a few servers. You’re done and you didn’t make >>> yourself miserable by implementing something you really didn’t want or need >>> >>> Not everybody needs a cloud platform. Certainly not everybody needs to >>> build their own cloud platform internal to their company. If you’re IT >>> needs are big enough and rapidly changing enough to actually need cloud >>> then you wouldn’t be posting to an OpenStack mailing list that “I don’t >>> want cloud” unless of course you don’t actually know your IT needs well >>> enough. And if you don’t know your IT needs well enough to understand on a >>> technical basis why you need OpenStack (or CloudStack or vCloud or etc) >>> then you need to go back and figure out your own IT needs before proceeding >>> further. >>> >> >> >
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