On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Michael Still <mi...@stillhq.com> wrote:
> So, a few questions... > > - If there are no users shall we remove it from Havana and Grizzly as > well, or does that violate our stability principles too much? > > Speaking with my stable maintainers hat on I would personally NACK this since it doesnt meet the standard of a stable maintenance requirement, imho. > - If we don't remove the code from stable, what about removing all > references from the stable docs and putting in a warning saying that > powervm is a dead end instead? I want to minimise confusion on the > part of people deploying stable releases. This would be okay in my opinion. > - And finally, as someone who spent a bunch of time reviewing powervm > code I will admit that I'm kind of annoyed right now. How can IBM > reassure us that powervc has customers asking for a driver, and that > those customers will actually deploy a driver if one is merged? Given > kvm for power is now announced and should be around in 2014, I'd much > prefer a powerkvm through libvirt implementation to minimise the > number of drivers. > > This can be said for any number of drivers in the virt layer. For example, vmware might want to introduce a new product and have a new Openstack driver, deprecating what we have in Openstack now. I would take a wait and see approach to what happens. chuck > Michael > > [1]: > http://blog.klauskiwi.com/ibm-announces-kvm-coming-to-power-systems-in-2014-powerlinux-powerkvm-rhsummit/ > > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Tim Bell <tim.b...@cern.ch> wrote: > > > > There was only one response in the user survey that the cloud was using > PowerVM. > > > > Given IBM's request to drop the function, my analysis of the survey data > says that this would not cause disruption for the deployments who reported > their configurations. > > > > Thus, an accelerated depreciation schedule would seem appropriate. I > would recommend an e-mail to the openstack operations list to confirm that > there are no objections. > > > > Tim > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Thierry Carrez [mailto:thie...@openstack.org] > >> Sent: 22 November 2013 17:25 > >> To: openstack@lists.openstack.org > >> Cc: Tim Bell; Ryan Lane > >> Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Nova] Proposed removal of the PowerVM driver > >> > >> Russell Bryant wrote: > >> > The maintainers of the PowerVM driver have proposed that it be removed > >> > from Nova. Their reasons are: > >> > > >> > - it is no longer in line with IBM's strategic direction with > >> > OpenStack > >> > > >> > - they are not aware of anyone ever having used the driver (outside > of > >> > the team that developed and maintained it) > >> > > >> > The second point is quite important. If anyone is using it that they > >> > do not know of, we need to find out. Normally we would approach > >> > something like this with a phased deprecation plan (mark it deprecated > >> > in Icehouse, remove it in J). There is a non-zero cost to keeping the > >> > code, so if we can remove it immediately, there is some benefit to > >> > Nova development. > >> > > >> > If you have an interest in this driver, please speak now. > >> > >> According to the user survey there was *1* deployment that reported > using PowerVM: > >> > >> > http://www.openstack.org/blog/2013/11/openstack-user-survey-statistics-november-2013/ > >> > >> Maybe the user committee could help us make sure that user knows about > this plan ? > >> > >> -- > >> Thierry Carrez (ttx) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > > Unsubscribe : > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > > -- > Rackspace Australia > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > Unsubscribe : > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack >
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