+1 Devin
On Oct 7, 2011, at 7:16 AM, John Dickinson <m...@not.mn> wrote: > I would prefer to keep the list together. I do not think the volume of either > dev or user conversations is too oppressive to the other, and I would like to > avoid wither group being neglected by the other. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 7, 2011, at 2:16 AM, "Wayne A. Walls" <wa...@openstack.org> wrote: > >> I remember having this discussion at the Cactus design summit, and the >> reoccurring theme was dev vs sysads/deployment. I was in favor of a split >> list then, but over the past year my stance has changed a bit. >> >> I don't know if I feel that OpenStack has reached the level where deployment >> knowledge is absent of "dev" knowhow. Deployers of OS are typically in >> irc/ml/forums pasting stack traces, working through problems with dev help. >> Once we start seeing more public deployments, reference architectures, etc, >> then maybe? >> >> Do devs think there is too much noise on the main ml? What has the impact >> been on splitting the irc channels out? To me, I just idle in two places >> now, but did that really have a big impact? I tend to agree with John's >> points, I don't want the presumably easiest ml to consume to be neglected by >> some of the brightest minds in the project. >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Wayne >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 6, 2011, at 10:11 PM, "John Purrier" <j...@openstack.org> wrote: >> >>> My 2 cents... >>> >>> The traffic on the list is less than 100 messages per day, of that about 35% >>> is bug notifications. I wonder if we redirect the "developer" oriented email >>> on the list whether we will have 10 messages a day on the original openstack >>> mailing list. >>> >>> Stefano, can you elaborate on why the developers feel a split is necessary >>> at this point? Most (if not all) of the traffic is developer oriented, what >>> is the problem we want to solve? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> John >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: openstack-bounces+john=openstack....@lists.launchpad.net >>> [mailto:openstack-bounces+john=openstack....@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf >>> Of Stefano Maffulli >>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:35 PM >>> To: openstack >>> Subject: [Openstack] Creating openstack-dev mailing list >>> >>> Jesse Andrews (anotherjesse)(Rackspace) >>> Jonathan Bryce (jbryce)(Rackspace) >>> Devin Carlen (devcamcar)(Nebula) >>> Thierry Carrez (ttx)(Rackspace) >>> John Dickinson (notmyname)(Rackspace)) >>> Vish Ishaya (vishy)(Rackspace) >>> Josh Kearney (jk0)(Rackspace) >>> Joshua McKenty (jmckenty)(Piston) >>> Ewan Mellor (ewanmellor)(Citrix) >>> Jay Pipes (jaypipes)(Rackspace) >>> John Purrier (johnpur)(HP) >>> Monty Taylor (mordred)(Rackspace) >>> Paul Voccio (pvo)(Rackspace) >>> Ziad Sawalha (zns)(Rackspace) >>> >>> Hello folks, >>> >>> I've been talking to quite a few developers participating to the Design >>> Summit and a recurring request I got is to create a new mailing list for >>> the OpenStack developers to meet and discuss. >>> >>> There is also a concern that putting developers in another list will >>> decrease their attention to the bigger part of the community. I believe >>> this is a serious concern and that it's going to be our role as leaders >>> of this community to prevent this from happening. >>> >>> I'd suggest to dedicate the existing mailing list for discussions about >>> usage of OpenStack (deployment and development of applications on top of >>> OpenStack API) and create a new one only for developers of OpenStack. >>> "Developers" in this context should be developers of openstack projects >>> (nova, swift, quantum, etc). >>> >>> If there is no opposition to this proposal in the next days, I'll >>> proceed and create openstack-dev and invite developers to subscribe to >>> it. >>> >>> cheers, >>> stef >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack >>> Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack >>> Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack >> Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
