On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Mark McLoughlin <mar...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 12:18 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > [..] > > So I think the key question is whether the TC should be considered "the > > college of the PTLs + a number of extra elected people", or "whoever the > > technical contributors elect for the job, who may or may not also be > PTLs". > [..] > > Nice summary. Interested folks can also read the debate at last night's > PPB meeting: > > > http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-06-19-20.00.log.html > > I completely buy your argument that all seats should be elected. And I > also expect that most PTLs would be elected. > > Put it this way - with the "all seats are elected" model, a voting > contributor gets to weigh up the likely contribution to the committee of > a given PTL versus other non-PTL candidates. I think that's healthy. > +1 I originally thought, "The PTLs are already elected, why vote again?" but your arguments about the TC size as we add more projects convinced me it will be better to use a separate selection process. Some PTLs may not want to serve on the TC anyway, since it needs to have a more "holistic" view of OpenStack vs. the focus of managing a specific project. > Related, I think the committee should be making more of an effort to > encourage "rough consensus" in the community on the matters under their > consideration. IMHO, committee members should be voting on "is there a > workable rough consensus on this matter?" rather than voting based > purely on their own personal opinion. > Leaders always have a challenge balancing between recognizing group consensus and codifying it versus influencing the group to move in a direction it may not want, to but needs, to go. I don't see the TC having an easier time of this than anyone else in history. :-) > If that was the case, any PTL who was constructively engaging in a > debate and helping to reach a consensus would have no fear of being > ignored. > Agreed. The OpenStack community has better than average collaboration skills so I don't expect problems with the TC ignoring anyone making rational arguments. Doug
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