I think even more so would be what is the purpose/benefit to an operator? 
99.99% of the time an operator will have an idea of resources they want to 
create already or plans to do so. Personally, unless pushing to demo OpenStack, 
I would prefer totally untouched install.

> On Jul 31, 2016, at 8:13 PM, Blair Bethwaite <blair.bethwa...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a recipe for confusion?
> 
>> On 1 August 2016 at 10:23, Steven Dake (stdake) <std...@cisco.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/31/16, 7:13 AM, "Jay Pipes" <jaypi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 07/29/2016 11:35 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:
>>>> Hey folks,
>>>> 
>>>> In Kolla we have a significant bug in that Horizon can't be used because
>>>> it requires a member user.  We have a few approaches to fixing this
>>>> problem in mind, but want to understand what Operators want.  Devstack
>>>> itself has switched between member and _member_ although Devstack isn't
>>>> our reference: Operators are.
>>>> 
>>>> Which of those do operators prefer (if either).
>>>> 
>>>> Another question was whether we should create a default user named
>>>> "user" and use this in place of member.
>>> 
>>> "member" is a role, not a user. The default unprivileged user is named
>>> "demo" and has the "member" role in a project called "demo".
>> 
>> Yup, thanks for the correction.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Are you asking what the name of the unprivileged *role* should be by
>>> default in Kolla installations? Or are you asking what, if any, a
>>> default unprivileged *user* should be called?
>> 
>> The idea of adding a user called "user" with a role called "user" was
>> proposed.  Curious if operators care to want that.
>> 
>> Regards
>> -steve
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> -jay
>>> 
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