On 2018-01-08 16:53:30 -0800 (-0800), Clark Boylan wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018, at 3:46 PM, James E. Blair wrote:
[...]
> > I'd like to create the following two lists to start:
> > 
> > zuul-annou...@lists.zuul-ci.org  --  A list for release
> > announcements and to disseminate information about job
> > definition changes (including information about the shared
> > zuul-jobs repos).
> > 
> > zuul-disc...@lists.zuul-ci.org  --  A list for general
> > discussion about using Zuul and development work.
> > 
> > Note in particular that, at the moment, I'm not proposing a
> > dev/user mailing list split.  Much of our dev work directly
> > impacts users and needs broad discussion.  Likewise, we're
> > better developers when we dive into real user problems.  So to
> > the extent possible, I'd like to avoid creating a split where
> > one isn't necessary.
> 
> +1. I think one of the things OpenStack has struggled with is
> we've set up separate lines of communication for devs, users, and
> ops so it is easier to miss conversations that should involve
> these various groups. And even when we accommodate that it ends up
> as a mess of cross posts.
[...]

I'd go further and credit it with much of the unnecessary perceived
division between developers and operators in the OpenStack
community. The proposal sounds great.
-- 
Jeremy Stanley

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