On 17 Jan 2017, at 01:19, Brandon B. Jozsa 
<bjo...@jinkit.com<mailto:bjo...@jinkit.com>> wrote:

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On January 16, 2017 at 7:04:00 PM, Fox, Kevin M 
(kevin....@pnnl.gov<mailto:kevin....@pnnl.gov>) wrote:

I'm not stating that the big tent should be abolished and we go back to the way 
things were. But I also know the status quo is not working either. How do we 
fix this? Anyone have any thoughts?


Are we really talking about Barbican or has the conversation drifted towards 
Big Tent concerns?

Perhaps we can flip this thread on it’s head and more positively discuss what 
can be done to improve Barbican, or ways that we can collaboratively address 
any issues. I’m almost wondering if some opinions about Barbican are even 
coming from its heavy users, or users who’ve placed much time into 
developing/improving Barbican? If not, let’s collectively change that.


When we started deploying Magnum, there was a pre-req for Barbican to store the 
container engine secrets. We were not so enthusiastic since there was no puppet 
configuration or RPM packaging.  However, with a few upstream contributions, 
these are now all resolved.

the operator documentation has improved, HA deployment is working and the 
unified openstack client support is now available in the latest versions.

These extra parts may not be a direct deliverable of the code contributions 
itself but they make a major difference on deployability which Barbican now 
satisfies. Big tent projects should aim to cover these areas also if they wish 
to thrive in the community.

Tim


Thanks,
Kevin


Brandon B. Jozsa

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