On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 08:21:02PM +0000, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > IMO, This is why the big tent has been so damaging to OpenStack's progress. > Instead of lifting the commons up, by requiring dependencies on other > projects, there by making them commonly deployed and high quality, post big > tent, each project reimplements just enough to get away with making something > optional, and then the commons, and OpenStack as a whole suffers. This > behavior MUST STOP if OpenStack is to make progress again. Other projects, > such as Kubernetes are making tremendous progress because they are not > hamstrung by one component trying desperately not to depend on another when > the dependency is appropriate. They enhance the existing component until its > suitable and the whole project benefits. Yes, as an isolated dev, the > behavior to make deps optional seems to make sense. But as a whole, OpenStack > is suffering and will become increasingly irrelevant moving forward if the > current path is continued. Please, please reconsider what the current stance > on dependencies is d > oing to the community. This problem is not just isolated to barbican, but > lots of other projects as well. We can either help pull each other up, or we > can step on each other to try and get "on top". I'd rather we help each other > rather then the destructive path we seem to be on. > > My 2 cents. > Kevin >
Very well said, Kevin. The problem is not just about Barbican. Time for the TC and the whole community to rethink or even just to realize where we are heading ... Time for each and every projects to do some introspection ... Time to solve this chicken-and-egg problem. Stick together, there seems still a chance for future; otherwise, we will feel guilty wasting people's life building something that is falling apart eventually. Should we kill all "sh**-as-a-service" projects and focus on the few "core" services and hope they will meet all users' requirements? Or, should we give every project an equal chance to be adopted? Who is blocking other services to get adopted? How many projects are listed on the project navigator? - Qiming __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
