On Apr 8, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Major Hayden <ma...@mhtx.net> wrote:
> 
> On 04/08/2016 03:31 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
>> Thanks for taking this up--some people just need
>> encouragement/suggestions for better ways to make an impact. On the
>> other hand, if you find that many of them have addresses at the same
>> company domain... well I guess we can find people higher up the
>> ladder in those companies and talk to them about how to channel
>> their employee quotas/incentives in more productive directions for
>> the community as well.
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> I have sent five emails so far and I received two responses already.  Both of 
> the people who replied said they are new to OpenStack and how to do reviews.  
> They welcomed more input on how to find the right code reviews and how to 
> complete the review.  They weren't aware that these particular contributions 
> were seen as unhelpful or gaming the system.

First, thanks Major for reaching out and asking questions. 

Having just caught this thread, I was a bit startled by the assumption of 
ill-intent vs. a straight-up “Hey, this seems silly. Why are they doing this? 
We should ask!” That’s a bummer attitude for us to launch out with.

I’m glad to see a few folks approach it as, “They probably don’t know” and 
offer blog posts. Might be good to get some of these incorporated into 
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute 
<https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute> so that n00bs (like me) get 
guidance early.

I can’t speak for others, but I can say I’ve made it abundantly clear in my org 
that Stackalytics isn’t a useful or interesting metric beyond knowing where 
we’re contributing (and not). As a leaderboard, it’s untrustworthy because 
there’s no guarantee that any contribution it tracks is making value for 
OpenStack operators or users. I suspect that we’re reflecting on attitudes 
past, but I could be wrong.

> Would it make sense to encourage cores/PTLs on these projects to reach out to 
> these users and share gerrit dashboard[1] links?  A PTL shared some of these 
> with me and it certainly helped me focus better on the right reviews.
> 
> [1] https://github.com/openstack/gerrit-dash-creator 
> <https://github.com/openstack/gerrit-dash-creator>

That seems smart in general. Most of the projects have a getting started page; 
I like the Nova one[1] because it calls out reviews as a good way to start 
familiarizing yourself with the code, and points out their code review guide[2].

Always good to see you, Major. Big fan of your work. =]

—j

[1] http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/how_to_get_involved.html 
<http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/how_to_get_involved.html>
[2] http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html#code-review 
<http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html#code-review>
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