On 02/20/2016 05:39 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:
Sam,

I seem to recall Paul was not in favor, so there was not a majority of
cores there.  There were 6 core reviewers at the midcycle, and if you
only count kolla-core (which at this time I do for policy changes) that
means we had a vote of 5.  We have 11 core reviewers, so we need a vote
of 6+ for simple majority. I was also sort of –1 because it is an
exception, but I do agree the value is warranted.  I believe I expressed
at  the midcycle that I was –1 to the idea, atleast until the broader
core review team voted.  If I wasn't clear on that, I apologize.

I'll roll with the community on this one unless I have to tie break –
then groan :)

That is why a decision was made by the group to take this to the mailing
list.

Regards
-steve

From: Sam Yaple <sam...@yaple.net <mailto:sam...@yaple.net>>
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Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 9:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin containers
to stable/liberty

    I was under the impression we did have a majority of cores in favor
    of the idea at the midcycle. But if this is a vote-vote, then I am a
    very strong +1 as well. This is something operators will absolutely
    want and and need.

    Sam Yaple

    On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Michał Jastrzębski
    <inc...@gmail.com <mailto:inc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Strong +1 from me. This have multiple benefits:
        Easier (aka possible) debugging of networking in running envs (not
        having tools like tcpdump at your disposal is a pain) - granted,
        there
        are ways to get this working without thin containers but require
        fair
        amount of docker knowledge.
        Docker daemon restart will not break routers - currently with docker
        restart container with namespace dies and we lose our routers (they
        will migrate using HA, but well, still a networking downtime). This
        will no longer be the case so...
        Upgrades with no vm downtime whatsoever depends on this one.
        If we could deploy liberty code with all these nice stuff, I'd be
        happier person;)

        Cheers,
        Michal

        On 20 February 2016 at 07:40, Steven Dake (stdake)
        <std...@cisco.com <mailto:std...@cisco.com>> wrote:
        > Just clarifying, this is not a "revote" - there were not enough core
        > reviewers in favor of this idea at the Kolla midcycle, so we need to 
have a
        > vote on the mailing list to sort out this policy decision of managing
        > stable/liberty.
        >
        > Regards,
        > -steve
        >
        >
        > From: Steven Dake <std...@cisco.com <mailto:std...@cisco.com>>
        > Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage 
questions)"
        > <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
        <mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>>
        > Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 6:28 AM
        > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
        > <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
        <mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>>
        > Subject: [openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin containers to
        > stable/liberty
        >
        > Folks,
        >
        > There were not enough core reviewers to pass a majority approval of 
the
        > neutron thin container backport idea, so we separated it out from 
fixing
        > stable/liberty itself.
        >
        > I am going to keep voting open for *2* weeks this time.  The reason 
for the
        > two weeks is I would like a week of discussion before people just 
blindly
        > vote ;)
        >
        > Voting begins now and concludes March 4th.  Since this is a policy 
decision,
        > no veto votes are permitted, just a +1 and a  -1.  Abstaining is the 
same as
        > voting –1.
        >

I'm +1, but under condition that we will provide some script to migrate from supervisord-container to thin-containers (even if such a script will bring risk of downtime of the cloud).

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