I agree too.
Neutron community is scattered all over the world, it makes sense for me to have two different times. If attendance is not big enough that's something that we should try to address. It's a problem that we should try to fix, not a condition that we should accept. Moving to one time because of this gives the wrong message I think.

cheers,

Rossella

On 01/12/2016 01:47 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo wrote:
I agree with Gary here,

    The 21:00 UTC time here is a difficult time for me, because it's
exactly the time of getting kids to sleep
at home. It's generally very unpredictable for me.

     I missed last meeting exactly because of that, laptop was ready, I
was ready, kids didn't cooperate.

     I will do my best to be there every 21:00 UTC if it's finally
changed, but, I can't guarantee.

Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
Agreed with Gary on behalf of my European compatriots. (Note that I
*personally* +1’d the patch because I don’t mind, doing late hours
anyway; but it’s sad it was ninja merged without giving any chance for
those from affected timezones to express their concerns).

Ihar

Gary Kotton <gkot...@vmware.com> wrote:

Hi,
I personally liked that fact that there were two times. It was
reasonable to make an effort to stay up very late to attend the one
and then have the privileged of the other being at a reasonable time.
Now it is back to the crazy hours.
Thanks
Gary

From: Hirofumi Ichihara <ichihara.hirof...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Reply-To: OpenStack List <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 1:39 AM
To: OpenStack List <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Team meeting on Tuesday 1400UTC



On 2016/01/12 7:14, Armando M. wrote:
On 11 January 2016 at 13:54, Hirofumi Ichihara
<ichihara.hirof...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
On 2016/01/12 5:14, Armando M. wrote:
On 11 January 2016 at 12:04, Carl Baldwin <c...@ecbaldwin.net> wrote:
What do we do?  My calendar was set up with the sane bi-weekly thing
and it shows the meeting for tomorrow.  The last word from our
fearless leader is that we'll have it today.  So, I'll be there
today
unless instructed otherwise.

The ics file now seems to reset the cadence beginning today at 2100
and next Tuesday, the 19th, at 1400.  I guess we should either hold
the meeting today and reset the cadence or fix the ics file.

This is what I would like to do now:

https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266019

I personally haven't seen that much of an attendance difference
anyway, and at this point, it'll simplify our lives and avoid
grief going forward.
I like it.

However, we have gathered from all over the world because neutron
is big project. Should we have the choice so that more people get
attendance opportunity?

This time, the return to the normal schedule was a disaster, plus
every time we switch to daylight savings, or every time there's a
holiday break/summit we have twice the chances to screw up if we
keep the bi-weekly schedule.

If I go and look at the logs [1] I don't have hard evidence that the
bi-weekly schedule does indeed help the attendance of friendlier
timezones, so I wonder...what's the point?
You're right. My reply was just general opinion. I think that most
regular folks probably attend both days now. I actually do as well.

I was worried that sometimes there are developers who introduce his
bug or ask core to review although they usually don't attend.
However, we have openstack-neutron channel for it.

A.

[1] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
Carl

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Kevin Benton
<blak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The issue is simply that you have a sane bi-weekly thing setup
in your
> calendar. What we have for Neutron is apparently defined as
“odd and even
> weeks when weeks are represented as an short integer counting
from the first
> of the year”, a.k.a. “bi-weekly” as a robot might define it. :)
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Kyle Mestery
<mest...@mestery.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Kyle Mestery
<mest...@mestery.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Armando M.
<arma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Disregard the email subject.
>>>
>>> I stand corrected. Let's meet today.
>>>
>>
>> Something is wrong, I have the meeting on my google calendar,
and it shows
>> up as tomorrow for this week. I've had these setup as rotating
for a while
>> now, so something is fishy with the .ics files.
>
>
> If you look here [1], the meeting cadence was:
>
> 12-15-2015: Tuesday
> 12-21-2015: Monday
> 12-29-2015: Tuesday (skipped)
> 01-04-2016: Monday (skipped)
> 01-12-2016 Tuesday
>
> The meeting is tomorrow.
>
> [1] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 11 January 2016 at 10:24, Ihar Hrachyshka
<ihrac...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Armando M. <arma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi neutrinos,
>>>>>
>>>>> A kind reminder for tomorrow's meeting at 1400UTC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Armando
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Is it just me, or when you use .ics file from eavesdrop, it
says the
>>>> meeting is today?
>>>>
>>>>
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/calendars/neutron-team-meeting.ics
>>>>
>>>> Is it the same issue as described in:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/082902.html

>>>>
>>>> and that is suggested to fix by readding your events from
updated .ics
>>>> file:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083216.html

>>>>
>>>> Ihar
>>>>
>>>>
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