Le 17/09/2015 23:09, Nikhil Komawar a écrit :
On 9/17/15 3:51 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Kevin Benton <blak...@gmail.com
<mailto:blak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It guarantees that if you hit the date deadline local time, that
you won't miss the deadline. It doesn't matter if there are extra
hours afterwards. The idea is that it gets rid of the need to do
time zone conversions.
If we are trying to do some weird optimization where everyone
wants to submit in the last 60 seconds, then sure AOE isn't great
for that because you still have to convert. It doesn't seem to me
like that's what we are trying to do though.
Alternatively you give a UTC time (which all of our meetings are in
anyway) and set the deadline. Maybe we should be setting the deadline
to the western-most timezone (UTC-11/-12?) 23:59 as the deadline. This
would simply do what you're stating without having to explain AOE more
concretely than "submit by 23:59 your tz day X".
I think this is all superfluous however and we should simply encourage
people to not wait until the last minute. Waiting to see who is
running/what the field looks like isn't as important as standing up
and saying you're interested in running.
I like that you have used the word encourage however, will have to
disagree here. Life in general can't permit that to everyone -- there
can be any important things pop up at unexpected time, someone on
vacation and getting late to come back etc. And on top of that people
can get caught up particularly at this week. The time-line for
proposals is a good idea seems a good idea in general.
That's exactly why the schedule is always proposed in the beginning of
the cycle [1] so that any people interested in becoming PTLs would need
to make sure that they could provide their candidacy (there are 7 days
for proposing).
Also, the policy accepts to have a candidacy proposed by someone else,
just by having the candidate +1'ing the change even after the deadline,
so anyone in vacation can just proxy his candidacy by someone else.
Last but not the least, I assume that people wanting to be PTLs
understand that they are here for helping the community so they have
also to understand how the community works and what its rules are.
-Sylvain
[1]
https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Liberty_Release_Schedule&oldid=78501
You shouldn't worry about hurting anyone's feelings by running and
more importantly most PTLs will be happy to have someone else shoulder
some of the weight; by tossing your name into the ring it signals
you're willing to help out in this regard. I know that as a PTL (an
outgoing one at that) having this clear signal would raise an
individual towards the top of the list for asking if they want the
responsibility delegated to them as it was indicated they already
wanted to be part of leadership for the project.
Just a $0.02 on the timing concerns.
--Morgan
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My 2 pennies worth.
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