On 06/24/2015 03:42 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:28:59AM +0100, Nikola Đipanov wrote:
Hey Nova,
I'll cut to the chase and keep this email short for brevity and clarity:
Specs don't work! They do nothing to facilitate good design happening,
if anything they prevent it. The process layered on top with only a
minority (!) of cores being able to approve them, yet they are a prereq
of getting any work done, makes sure that the absolute minimum that
people can get away with will be proposed. This in turn goes and
guarantees that no good design collaboration will happen. To add insult
to injury, Gerrit and our spec template are a horrible tool for
discussing design. Also the spec format itself works for only a small
subset of design problems Nova development is faced with.
I'd like to see some actual evidence to backup a sweeping statement
as "Specs dont work. They do nothing to facilitate good design happening,
if anything they prevent it."
Here is actual evidence: my spec[1] for changing the console API has
been approved twice (in Kilo and Liberty), then it was augmented by the
API WG [2], the implementation has been in review for 6 months [3] and
there is still no agreement on this API change. I am not talking about
implementation details but fundamental things that should be cleared out
during the spec review. So writing and reviewing this spec was pretty
much a waste of time.
[1]
http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/approved/consolidate-console-api.html
[2]
https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs/commit/12f85fcdc1797370f1a962cc9dc14cc634e22b1a
[3] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148509/
-Rado
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