Thanks Cindy! Glance cores, can you all please pitch in?
-Nikhil ________________________________________ From: Cindy Pallares [cpalla...@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 12:28 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] IRC logging I've made a patch, we can vote on it there. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145025/ On 01/05/2015 11:15 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > I think logging the channel is a benefit even if, as Nikhil points out, it is > not an official meeting. Trove logs both the #openstack-trove channel and the > meetings when they occur. I have also had some conversations with other ATC's > on #openstack-oslo and #openstack-security and have found that the eavesdrop > logs at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/ to be invaluable in either > bug comments or code review comments. > > The IRC channel is an integral part of communicating within the OpenStack > community. The use of foul language and other inappropriate behavior should > be monitored not by admins but by other members of the community and called > out just as one would call out similar behavior in a non-virtual work > environment. I submit to you that profanity and inappropriate conduct in an > IRC channel constitutes a hostile work environment just as much as it does in > a non-virtual environment. > > Therefore I submit to you that there is no place for such behavior on an IRC > channel irrespective of whether it is logged or not. > > Thanks, > > -amrith > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: Morgan Fainberg [mailto:morgan.fainb...@gmail.com] > | Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 11:58 AM > | To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > | Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] IRC logging > | > | > | > | > On Jan 5, 2015, at 08:07, Nikhil Komawar <nikhil.koma...@rackspace.com> > | wrote: > | > > | > Based on the feedback received, we would like to avoid logging on the > | project channel. My take from the discussion was that it gives many a > | folks a feeling of informal platform to express their ideas freely in > | contrast to the meeting channels. > | > > | > However, at the same time I would like to point out that using foul > | language in the open freenode channels is a bad practice. There are no > | admins monitoring our project channels however, those channels that are > | monitored have people kicked out on misbehavior. The point being, "no > | logging" means freedom of thought for only the creative purposes; please > | do not take me any other way. > | > > | > Thanks, > | > -Nikhil > | > > | > | I just want to point out that keystone has logging enabled for our channel > | and I do not see it as a hamper to creative discussion / open discussion. > | The logging is definitely of value. Also a lot of people will locally log > | a given irc channel, which largely nets the same result. > | > | It is still not an official meeting, and we have heated debates at times, > | the logging let's us check back on things discussed outside of the > | official meetings. I do admit it is used less frequently than the meeting > | logs. > | > | --Morgan > | > | Sent via mobile > | > ________________________________________ > | > From: Anita Kuno [ante...@anteaya.info] > | > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 10:42 AM > | > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > | > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] IRC logging > | > > | >> On 01/05/2015 06:42 AM, Cindy Pallares wrote: > | >> Hi all, > | >> > | >> I would like to re-open the discussion on IRC logging for the glance > | >> channel. It was discussed on a meeting back in November[1], but it > | >> didn't seem to have a lot of input from the community and it was not > | >> discussed in the mailing list. A lot of information is exchanged > | >> through the channel and it isn't accessible for people who > | >> occasionally come into our channel from other projects, new > | >> contributors, and people who don't want to be reached off-hours or > | >> don't have bouncers. Logging our channel would increase our > | >> community's transparency and make our development discussions > | >> publicly accessible to contributors in all time-zones and from other > | >> projects. It is very useful to look back on the logs for previous > | >> discussions or as well as to refer people to discussions or questions > | previously answered. > | >> > | >> > | >> --Cindy > | >> > | >> [1] > | >> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-11-13 > | >> -20.03.log.html > | >> > | >> > | >> _______________________________________________ > | >> OpenStack-dev mailing list > | >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > | >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > | > Hi Cindy: > | > > | > You might want to consider offering a patch (you can use this one as > | > an > | > example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138965/2) and anyone with a > | > strong perspective can express themselves with a vote and comment. > | > > | > Thanks, > | > Anita. > | > > | > _______________________________________________ > | > OpenStack-dev mailing list > | > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > | > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > | > > | > _______________________________________________ > | > OpenStack-dev mailing list > | > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > | > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > | > | _______________________________________________ > | OpenStack-dev mailing list > | OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > | http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
