On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Eichberger, German <german.eichber...@hp.com> wrote: > Kyle, > > I am confused. So basically you (and Mark) are saying: > > 1) We deprecate Neutron LBaaS v1 > 2) We spin out Neutron LBaaS v2 into it's own project in stackforge > 3) Users don't have an OpenStack LBaaS any longer until we graduate from > OpenStack incubation (as opposed Neutron incubation) > > I am hoping you can clarify how this will be shaping up - > I think what is needed is this:
1) We incubate Neutron LBaaS V2 in the incubator. 2) It graduates into a project under the networking program. 3) We deprecate Neutron LBaaS v1. To deprecate, we need the new API stable and ready, and then once V1 is deprecated it takes 2 cycles for us to remove it. Hope that helps! Thanks, Kyle > Thanks, > German > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mest...@mestery.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:48 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas][octavia] > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Kevin Benton <blak...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I think we need some clarification here too about the difference >> between the general OpenStack Incubation and the Neutron incubation. >> From my understanding, the Neutron incubation isn't the path to a >> separate project and independence from Neutron. It's a process to get >> into Neutron. So if you want to keep it as a separate project with its >> own cores and a PTL, Neutron incubation would not be the way to go. > > That's not true, there are 3 ways out of incubation: 1) The project withers > and dies on it's own. 2) The project is spun back into Neutron. 3) The > project is spun out into it's own project. > > However, it's worth noting that if the project is spun out into it's own > entity, it would have to go through incubation to become a fully functioning > OpenStack project of it's own. > >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Susanne Balle <sleipnir...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Just for us to learn about the incubator status, here are some of the >>> info on incubation: >>> >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Approved/Incubation >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewProjects >>> >>> Susanne >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Susanne Balle >>> <sleipnir...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would like to discuss the pros and cons of putting Octavia into >>>> the Neutron LBaaS incubator project right away. If it is going to be >>>> the reference implementation for LBaaS v 2 then I believe Octavia >>>> belong in Neutron LBaaS v2 incubator. >>>> >>>> The Pros: >>>> * Octavia is in Openstack incubation right away along with the lbaas >>>> v2 code. We do not have to apply for incubation later on. >>>> * As incubation project we have our own core and should be able ot >>>> commit our code >>>> * We are starting out as an OpenStack incubated project >>>> >>>> The Cons: >>>> * Not sure of the velocity of the project >>>> * Incubation not well defined. >>>> >>>> If Octavia starts as a standalone stackforge project we are assuming >>>> that it would be looked favorable on when time is to move it into >>>> incubated status. >>>> >>>> Susanne >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kevin Benton >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
