I'm curious, how would having Nova reviewers look at this have helped?
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 08/06/2014 07:08 PM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: > >> On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mohammad Banikazemi <m...@us.ibm.com<mailto: >> m...@us.ibm.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Yes, indeed. >>> I do not want to be over dramatic but the discussion on the original >>> "Group >>> Based Policy and the way forward" thread is nothing short of >>> heartbreaking. >>> After months and months of discussions, three presentations at the past >>> three >>> summits, a design session at the last summit, and (most relevant to this >>> thread) the approval of the spec, why are we talking about the merits of >>> the >>> work now? >>> >>> I understand if people think this is not a good idea or this is not a >>> good >>> time. What I do not understand is why these concerns were not raised >>> clearly >>> and openly earlier. >>> >> >> I have to agree here. I'm not sure whether my organization needs GBP or >> not. >> It's certainly not our top priority for Neutron given a variety of other >> more >> important functional gaps. However, I saw their demo at the summit and it >> was >> clear that a lot of work had gone into it even before Icehouse. From the >> demo >> it was clearly a useful enhancement to Neutron even if it wasn't at the >> top >> of my priority list. >> >> For people to be asking to justify the "why" this far into the Juno cycle >> when the spec was approved and the code was demoed at the summit really >> brings the OpenStack process into question. It's one thing to discuss >> technical merits of contributions but it's totally different to pull the >> rug >> out from under a group of contributors at the last minute after such a >> long >> period of development, discussion, and demo. >> >> Seeing this sort of last minute rejection of a contribution after so much >> time has been invested in it could very easily have a chilling effect on >> contributors. >> > > I don't disagree with you, Paul. > > I blame myself for not paying the attention I should have to this earlier > in the process. > > FWIW, I had a good conversation with Sumit and Kevin on #openstack-neutron > this afternoon about this particular topic. We agree on some things; > disagree on others. > > Bottom line, I go back to what I said in a previous email: the Nova and > Neutron development teams need to do a much better job in being directly > involved in each other's spec discussions and design conversations. > > Best, > -jay > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Kevin Benton
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