On 01/19/2014 11:50 PM, Jesse Noller wrote: > > On Jan 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Jamie Lennox <jamielen...@redhat.com > <mailto:jamielen...@redhat.com>> wrote: > >> On Sat, 2014-01-18 at 09:13 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> I like the idea of a fresh start, but I don't think that's >>> incompatible with the other work to clean up the existing clients. >>> That cleanup work could help with creating the backwards compatibility >>> layer, if a new library needs to include one, for example. >>> >>> >>> As far as namespace packages and separate client libraries, I'm torn. >>> It makes sense, and I originally assumed we would want to take that >>> approach. The more I think about it, though, the more I like the >>> approach Dean took with the CLI, creating a single repository with a >>> team responsible for managing consistency in the UI. >>> >>> >>> Doug >> >> This *is* the approach Dean took with the CLI. Have a package that >> provides the CLI but then have the actual work handed off to the >> individual clients (with quite a lot of glue). > > And I think many of us are making the argument (or trying to) that the > “a lot of glue” approach is wrong and unsustainable for both a unified > CLI long term *and especially* for application developers.
100% agree. At some point take a look at the tempest rest client, and you can see how entirely crazy different the APIs are between services - https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/common/rest_client.py#L506 (The Tempest client is in no way a paragon of virtues, but by writing our own client we've really discovered how lumpy this API is). So I'm highly supportive of taking all the clients into a single separate program which would produce the official python SDK, as well as a unified CLI for OpenStack. The server programs should just be producing server stacks, that end with the API. I think that would empower a set of people that were most concerned with operator and developer UX to be able to look at OpenStack as a whole. -Sean -- Sean Dague Samsung Research America s...@dague.net / sean.da...@samsung.com http://dague.net
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