On 17/08/18 11:51, Chris Dent wrote:
One of the questions that has come up on the etherpad is about how
placement should be positioned, as a project, after the extraction.
The options are:
* A repo within the compute project
* Its own project, either:
* working towards being official and governed
* official and governed from the start
So since this is under heavy discussion in #openstack-tc, and Ed asked
for folks who are not invested in either side, allow me to offer this
suggestion:
It just doesn't matter.
The really important thing here, and it sounds like one that everybody
agrees on, is that placement gets split out into its own repo. That will
enable things to move forward both technically (helping other projects
to more easily consume it) and socially (allowing it to use a separate
Gerrit ACL so it can add additional core reviewers with +2 rights only
on that repo). So let's focus on getting that done.
It seems unlikely to me that having the placement repo technically under
the governance of the Nova project will present anywhere near the level
of obstacle to other projects using as having it in the same repo as
Nova currently does, if they are even aware of it at all. Conversely, I
consider it equally unlikely that placement living outside of the Nova
umbrella altogether would result in significant divergence between its
interests and those of Nova.
If you want my personal opinion then I'm a big believer in incremental
change. So, despite recognising that it is born of long experience of
which I have been blissfully mostly unaware, I have to disagree with
Chris's position that if anybody lets you change something then you
should try to change as much as possible in case they don't let you try
again. (In fact I'd go so far as to suggest that those kinds of
speculative changes are a contributing factor in making people reluctant
to allow anything to happen at all.) So I'd suggest splitting the repo,
trying things out for a while within Nova's governance, and then
re-evaluating. If there are that point specific problems that separate
governance would appear to address, then it's only a trivial governance
patch and a PTL election away. It should also be much easier to get
consensus at that point than it is at this distance where we're only
speculating what things will be like after the extraction.
I'd like to point out for the record that Mel already said this and said
it better and is AFAICT pretty much never wrong :)
cheers,
Zane.
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