On 28/06/17 16:50 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Removing the root cause would be a more radical move: stop offering
hosting to non-OpenStack projects on OpenStack infrastructure
altogether. We originally did that for a reason, though. The benefits of
offering that service are:

1- it lets us set up code repositories and testing infrastructure before
a project applies to be an official OpenStack project.

2- it lets us host things that are not openstack but which we work on
(like abandoned Python libraries or GPL-licensed things) in a familiar
environment

3- it spreads "the openstack way" (Gerrit, Zuul) beyond openstack itself

I would argue that we could handle (1) and (2) within our current
governance.

For (1) we could have an "onboarding" project team that would help
incoming projects through the initial steps of becoming an openstack
project. The team would act as an umbrella team, an experimental area
for projects that have some potential to become an OpenStack project one
day. There would be a time limit -- if after one year(?) it looks like
you won't become an openstack project after all, the onboarding team
would clean you up. I actually think a bit more project mentoring would
serve us better than our current hands-free approach.

I'd say that we should do this regardless. I believe in mentoring and I see
great value in onboarding projects. It's a job in itself and I think having a
team of volunteers doing that would be awesome.

One could argue that, given the current status of some of the teams, it'd not be
wise to create a new one that, well, requires more volunteers. However, I think
that it doesn't have to take volunteer's full time and it'd be great for new
projects.

I've mentored new teams and I know a few other folks have done it, including
Thierry. I wonder how many of the currently hosted teams feel they need
menotring.

Flavio

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