Thank you Victor!

In the cryptool I'm only able to introduce the 8 bytes key and not the IV.
The documentation from CrypTool says" CBC mode is used with zero
initialization vector and X.923 padding."

user@debian:~$ openssl enc -des-cbc -K 0101010101010101 -iv
0000000000000000 -nosalt -in topsecret.txt | xxd
8a08 216b 7f88 7ec4

In the tool (GUI) using DES CBC mode with the same key '0101010101010101'
the output is '255B DF6C 2E64 E96A' but I didnt figure out what they mean
by "zero initialization vector and X.923 padding".

btw: the tool is quite amazing for learning crypto stuff
https://www.cryptool.org/images/ct1/presentations/CrypToolPresentation-en.pdf

Best,
Luis




On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Viktor Dukhovni <
openssl-us...@dukhovni.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:48:22PM +0100, Luis Rocha wrote:
>
> > + Filename topsecret.txt which only contains the character 'a'
> > + Encrypt it with DES using CBC mode with key and iv = 0 produces the
> > result '32ea a0fa 4f77 fb92'
> >
> > user@debian:~$ openssl enc -des-cbc -K 0 -iv 0 -nosalt -in topsecret.txt
> > 0000000: 32ea a0fa 4f77 fb92                      2...Ow..
>
> Note, "0" is not a valid DES key, nor a valid DES iv.  To be a
> valid key it needs to be 8 bytes with the right parity bits.  So
>
> I don't believe that you can expect well-defined behaviour with
> the specified inputs.
>
> > If I use the cryptool 1.4.31 to do the same exercise the result is
> > '0C29 5D71 8258 D464'
>
> What does "same" mean?  What is the syntax for key/iv in that utility?
>
> > I also noticed that openssl generates the same output for different modes
> > of des e.g.
> >
> > user@debian:~$ openssl enc -des-ecb -K 0 -iv 0 -nosalt -in
> topsecret.txt |
> > xxd
>
> For a single block with a zero IV, the output of ECB and CBC is
> naturally the same.  If you use a non-zero IV, you'll observe that
> CBC and ECB produce different results.
>
> > While if I do the same in Cryptool the output for the ECB mode is:
> >
> > '841B D8A4 2931 FCF5'
>
> Which shows that this tool is not in fact using a zero IV, likely
> because your input is invalid.
>
> --
>         Viktor.
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