Hi Jeffrey, long time!
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:28:22 -0400, Jeffrey
Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
jaltman> Tyler MacDonald wrote:
jaltman>
jaltman> > And it's not always even that simple: for example, the
jaltman> > freeradius project's postgresql plugin links against the
jaltman> > postgresql client library (naturally). Postgresql may or
jaltman> > may not link against OpenSSL. If it does, then the
jaltman> > freeradius-postgresql plugin is breaking the GPL's rules,
jaltman> > but how the postgresql client library was compiled isn't
jaltman> > neccessarily under freeradius's control.
jaltman>
jaltman> Maybe the problem is the GPL rules.
I don't agree with that assesment. The GPL rules are there for a
reason, and within the GNU world, they are well balanced. The same
goes for the BSD type of license, they're well balanced within the BSD
camp. No license is really wrong per se. However, when the worlds
are mixed, we have a conflict, and the real issue seems to be
two-fold:
1. do we want to resolve the conflict?
2. how do we resolve the conflict?
I can only speak from my own perspective when I answer those. The
first is easy for me to answer, it's a resounding YES. The second
takes a little bit of thinking, and is deeply connected with what I
want for OpenSSL. I've come into this project with the vision that
OpenSSL should be as available to anyone as possible without
compromising its freedom to exist. If someone wants to embed it into
their software, regardless of who that is, my vision is unthreatened.
However, if someone can't use OpenSSL because of some idiotic thing as
a license clash, I'm getting upset because it doesn't match my vision.
As has already been said, OpenSSL is very well known and stands on its
own two feet (so to speak) and its own merits with no real need for
every user to tell everyone that they use it[1]. From that point of
view, I see zero harm in removing a clause that seems to generate more
conflict and confusion[2] than good from our license.
Cheers,
Richard
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[1] You know, I'm I'm sure some will give us the credit without having
to be asked, just because they like OpenSSL. And for those who
don't want to, check if I care. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot
use OpenSSL in their software without saying a word about it.
[2] We regularly get questions about what the advertisement clause
means. It seems to be the single question that gets asked about
the license, really.
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