Brian Hatch wrote:

Ahha!  I know what we'll do, we'll require certificate authentication!
Ok, assuming I have a list of the major CAs and the the certificate
verified correctly

You're missing the point. A hijack or redirect is not a MITM attack. These words have specific meaning, which you are abusing.

Authentication != Authorization

"SSL" doesn't say anything about CN checking.

Right.


Yes, this is a 100% valid definition of MITM.  At least to us
security/network folks.  SSL was designed to *provide you the
ability* to prevent MITM attacks, but you need to do all the
checks above, it doesn't just happen by itself.

You are simply mistaken. SSL is -IN SE- proof against MITM attack. It is computationally infeasible to succesfully interpose and perform the handshake between a client and a server in a non-anon setting.

If you connect to and authenticate the wrong server, that's
not a MITM.

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