On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:05:20 -0500, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > On 2015-01-31 07:53 , Henri Beauchamp wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I know this should be posted in the JIRA, but apparently the comments in > > the existing issue (SUN-38) are not read or not taken into account by > > Lindens. > > > > Please, to any and all Linden(s) involved in AHH, do read this post for > > your own enlightement (and hopefully, a better and definitive solution > > for the SL community as a whole): > > http://sldev.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1494&p=6890#p6890 > > > > Note that I'm beyond the point to care about whether this message will > > be taken into account or not (so it's perfectly useless to enter a > > sterile argument on this list about it). It's more like a bottled > > message I throw into the sea... > > I won't speculate on whether or not we would have decided to do it > differently had your suggestion actually been made when we were starting > work on this months ago; the factors affecting avatar height and avatar > vertical offset are quite complicated and it may or may not have been > the right thing to do. I will say that your input would certainly have > been considered had you been a part of the conversation at the time > rather than posting a note on our private forum well after the fact.
Are you ***kidding*** me ???? I have been attending quite a few Server group meetings with Nyx, and you even were there once (for sure) or twice (can't swear on it), when I spoke about the SUN-38 issue. You will find several agendas with my entry about SUN-38, in the Wiki: http://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=henri+sun-38&fulltext=Search Most of the corresponding transcripts are alas missing from the Wiki, but I *did* explain my solution in at least two of those meetings and I will point out one particular agenda, where I asked if SPEAKING with a Linden about SUN-38 and the possible solutions would be at all possible: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh/Archive/2013-04-29 It's not my fault if you keep shrugging off every remark or proposal I make, or even refuse the dialog (in plain text, because I cannot articulate well enough English neither understand English spoken with the US American accent in real time). I will not even bother quoting the various emails I sent to *YOU*, Oz, and that you never replied (albeit about other subjects than SUN-38), but if you want them, I could dig in my backups... > Despite the fact that you refuse to contribute your code, Again you are reverting the roles here !!!! I never refused to contribute my code: it's GPL and always said that anyone (and yes, that includes *you* Lindens) could reuse it. Also, each time someone asked for permissionto make my code LGPL to be compatible with their own viewer, I always said "go for it !". What I refuse, however, is to sign a contribution agreement where I would have to give private data to perfect strangers residing in a foreign country that doesn't respect the privacy protection Law of *my* country (or of any other country for that purpose). You perfectly know this, for I explained it to you (and to Soft Linden, your predecessor) countless times in emails, even going down to give you pointers to paragraphs in the (English- translated even !) French Law "Informatique et Liberté". I am not the one refusing to contribute my code, YOU are the one(s) refusing to use my contributions because of stupid and pointless lawyer-induced bureaucracy. It is *YOUR* choice and *YOUR* refusal, not mine !!! > I'm happy to make sure that your input is considered if and when > you provide it in a timely way; I am the very initiator of the SUN-38 issue, and if you re-read the comments I made in it, my solution is exposed here as well (see the comment posted on 22/Jun/14 10:58 AM, in reply to the Firestorm team's proposal, i.e. QUITE in the TIMELY manner !!!). I ALWAYS gave pointers to major flaws and regressions, either in the form of a JIRA issue, or directly via emails (to YOU !!!). So, accusing me of not providing the info or not in a timely manner is quite INSULTING and a pure LIE from your part. > I hope that in the future you'll chose to engage more productively. I hope that in the future, you will actually read the JIRAs I initiate, the emails I send to you, the messages I post on the various boards and blogs you DO frequent as well as I do (Nalate's blog, to cite just one). I also hope that you will make the minimum effort to communicate in a way that a non-English speaking person such as myself can actually manage (Open Source meetings used to happen in CHAT and not in voice, when Soft Linden was still there... and I DID tell you in one of your first meetings that people like me COULDN'T attend your meetings because of the language barrier: I can find the log, if you wish...). Now, I would *much* more prefer a clever and fruitful collaboration to this sterile childish behaviour (ignoring me, then putting the fault on me for not participating. I think that in 8+ years of SLing, I *never stopped* participating !). A *pissed* off (BIG TIME !)... Henri. _______________________________________________ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
