On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Kent Quirk (Q Linden) <q...@lindenlab.com> 
wrote:
>
> On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Marine Kelley wrote:
>
>> However it is true that LL has delivered a bad message recently, by 
>> publishing the TPV and the closed-source SL 2.0 the SAME day. The TPV 
>> burdens us developers while freeing LL's hands, and the viewer 2.0 is going 
>> to be adopted by newcomers, so it will eventually get a broader audience 
>> than the rest. It could very easily be seen as competition. It looks very 
>> close to some "fire-and-motion" technique. They suppress open-source 
>> development by laying unbelievably heavy requirements upon the devs, while 
>> moving forward and releasing their own viewer which is not subject to said 
>> requirements. I do hope I'm wrong and this is not the message that LL wanted 
>> to send to us. But one can understand why so many teeth are gritting now.
>>
>
> What's frustrating about this for many of the Lindens is that we as an 
> organization pushed hard -- and Merov in particular worked nights and 
> weekends -- to get the Snowglobe source out on the same day that beta was 
> released, rather than waiting for our usual export process to work itself out 
> while we figure out how to make a new source control system (mercurial) work 
> for export.
>
> We actually believed we were doing something the community would really 
> appreciate -- getting the source out there the same day as beta. And yet 
> somehow that became something bad. People keep repeating that "it's closed 
> source".

Here's a thought: why not *ask* them. In the "open".

It absolves you of the need to guess.

Cheers,

> Despite the negative reaction, we're still working on the export process, as 
> Soft indicated, so that we can publish without the snowglobe patches added. 
> I'll also soon be posting our branching strategy we've been working out for 
> some weeks now. Sorry if it's not fast enough for some, but we've kind of 
> been focused on getting viewer 2 out.
>
> The TPV, as has been repeatedly stated, is about protecting our servers and 
> establishing the framework within which we can protect user content. I simply 
> don't see what the "heavy" requirements are. We ask viewer developers for 
> little more than good citizenship. That doesn't seem particularly burdensome.
>
> So yes, I think you're wrong about our motivations and intent. If we wanted 
> to kill our open source market we'd simply stop publishing it, rather than 
> creating a TPV that allows us to promote it. And considering the amount of 
> flak we've been getting, it would be easier. And yet, we're still here.
>
>        Q
>
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