Gary, offending words below... ;-) So, please be careful... ;-)

You (Gary) wrote:
> An operating system that is 14-months-old is a relic and as good as dead.

Bullshit! It seems, you've never been inside a real DataCenter, and have never
experienced slow adoption rates... ;-) I've seen systems being run for more
than 2 years WITHOUT reboot and WITHOUT any patching. Ever heard of "never
change a running system"? Some customers even ARE HAPPY, that changes occur in
close to 2-3 years changes, as it provides TIME to plan and adopt...

BTW: Ever heard of VMS or MVS? Still LIVING, and still good!

> Look at my other post showing release dates of other operating systems and 
> only OpenSolaris has had no releases.

That could also be interpreted as: There are so many bugs, they need to blow
out new versions every now and then... ;-)

Yes, on DESKTOPS that might be OK, but NEVER EVER underestimate the STABILITY
of non-changing and NON-FORCING to change systems...

And, 2009.06 is less than a year old, so, where's your point? And, in between
have been 134-111b builds, aka 23 different builds or updates, that could ALL
be applied on-the-run. Beat that! No one forces you to ONLY stick to the
"official binary distributions" of "intermediate stable versions"... So, if
you're eager to get the latest, pkg-update is your friend. You can even GO
back, if you made right BE's... ;-) Again: Beat that...

> Oracle specifically said in an article they would not include some 
> technologies in OpenSolaris they develop for Solaris 10.  This indicates an 
> R&D budget for Solaris 10, so I'd question the need for R&D on OpenSolaris, 
> when some of the OpenSolaris technologies aren't included in Solaris 10 
> (e.g., Crossbow).  Solaris 10 makes money, so R&D makes sense, but to spend 
> capital on OpenSolaris doesn't strike me as something Ellison is willing to 
> do.  

Don't over-react. There will NEVER be the FishWorks stuff directly inside
OpenSolaris (aka the S7000 add-ons), as that is very valuable IP. And, ever
thought, that sometime in the future, there will be a Solaris after Solaris
10? Guess, what that will be based on? And what it might include? You're
picking the very wrong crumbs here in order to create a bad
publicity... That'll backfire at you! Ever thought of backporting CrossBox
into S10? If you can do it, I guess, then there's a job in Solaris engineering
waiting right there for you!

> Of course there will be some who say OpenSolaris is dev for Solaris 10.  
> Really; then I'd like to have an explanation about why Oracle explicitly 
> states they are doing R&D on Solaris 10 (preceding paragraph), when that 
> should be done in OpenSolaris.  Isn't OpenSolaris dev for Solaris 10?  Seems 
> a waste of money to do development on both.

Every seen UPADTES to Solaris 10 (we're at Update 8, currently, remember?)?
They also need to be Q&A'ed, and developped. So, stop moaning, please...

> Waiting for the next OpenSolaris release is like waiting for your ex-wife to 
> come back.  It isn't going to happen, and even if it does, what about the 
> future, and will she stay?

Where do you know that from (The "not going to happen" part)? Who told you
that? Do you trust that person?

And, If I were forced to be your wife (TG, I'm not!), I would also abandon
you, being forced to be compared to a piece of forcefully ever changing
software... ;-) So, that's a very bad example... ;-)

OK, I'll stop here... ;-) Because I don't like feeding the trolls... ;-)

    Matthias
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