On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Gueven Bay wrote:

And OpenSolaris will not get "uptake" until you - the OpenSolaris community - 
made it _crystal clear_ to  _normal_ people - not to lawyers in companies - that the CDDL 
is not a license with which SUN wants to $profit$ .

The free software community doesn't like the CDDL and with it OpenSolaris.
You can scream. You can rage. But that is a fact.

The people think:
" Hmm, The GPL was written long ago. All this free SW is there and will be free forever.

Will it be ?

If you're getting into license fasicm, you end up with projects like this:

http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/

or, more recently, comments about corporate code contributions like this:

http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/license.html
http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0608.1/1018.html

which will sooner or later turn into flamewars again ...


The driver situation under Linux hasn't improved in the last few years anymore, and that's due to GPL extremists. Wrt. to that, some of the Linux developers are fighting a holy war, actively ignoring the needs of the users...

'nuff' said. I'm shutting up about this. Just ask yourself why for example the BSD projects are not using the GPL. If you want the software that you write to be free, to be usable by everyone, and don't insist on everyone using it to adopt all your religious dogmas, you'll make a very conscious choice against the GPL.

Linux gets the publicity. But there's a huge amount of opensource code out there, for Windows, for BSD, for scientific purposes - none of that is usually being pulled into the spotlight. Never seen a presentation on e.g. the history and importance of the LAPACK code during a LinuxDay. Never seen one on the possibilities of exchanging code with the BSD projects. Never saw one about what to observe when writing GPL'ed software for Windows. All these things are thriving, in their own way. If you cannot live with a wallflower role for a while, don't start a new project ...

Btw, the GPL "LICENSE.TXT", back in the early 1990s, used to have a political addendum "why not to use Apple" (explaining why gcc wasn't ported to MacOS). Anyone remembers that one ? GPL never was a license only, it was always an instrument of a political agenda. If you agree with that, or if you're just too dumb a member of the voting flock to care about such matters, it's all fine and nice. But we're not living in a one-party state, thanks god/fate/destiny/chance.

Yes, I'm sad that I can't take some code from Linux and put it into OpenSolaris. It'd make my life a lot easier in some places. But I just have to accept that, not only because I work for Sun, but rather because the Linux license forbids me doing it. The GPL is extremely restrictive - you're against us unless you're with us. The "free as in freedom" discussion is sophism, and missing the point. The GPL isn't there to protect the interests of users, but to allow the developer ultimate control about the code. Yes - control, not freedom.

Btw, yes, I have contributed GPL code.
Sometimes, having that kind of control is a very nice thing :)

FrankH.


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