*the thread mentioned a virtual appliance* => for VMWare ... VM and VMWare are two separated things, at least for me. A VM can be also XEN or whatever you use for virtualization, it does not need to be VMWare ... anyway... If you are a Sys-Admin yourself you might consider setting it up on your own or hire somebody that does it, if you want to establish a reliable service you need somebody who spends 1-2 hours per month to take care of needed sys-upgrades et cetera.
Deploying OpenMeetings on 64Bit Debian or 64Bit Ubuntu on a XEN Server for example is what we have done several times. It is a bit more complex as a simple dedicated Server as the 3th party tools often need to be compiled manually for each Virtual Instance as there are no ready / up-to-date packages in the official repositories, but it is of course possible. Sebastian 2011/6/20 Mike <[email protected]> > I too run a vm based fax server and haven't had any problems but then it's > very low use too. > > Anything special to take into considering when buildin OM onto a virtual > machine? > I ask because the thread mentioned a virtual appliance being available but > I'm not clear on the benefits over just building it myself. > > Thanks. > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:35 AM, shawn wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Asterisk used to have these issues with reviving faxes. I've heard this is >> resolved in recent versions. >> >> That said, I haven't really noticed any issues with voice in voip vm >> systems. There might be sync issues if you record a meeting on a vm - don't >> know. >> >> I pay for a vps from a company that runs kvm though I haven't gotten into >> most of the features. >> On Jun 20, 2011 10:14 AM, "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I don't rent, I own the infrastructure so can dedicate hardware. Most of >> my >> > blades are minimum dual duo-core 2.4 and up with 8 to 16GB of memory. >> Based >> > on what you mention below, sounds like I have plenty of power. >> > >> > The problem is that even in testing sip servers for example, we've come >> > across plenty of timing issues where the clock would skew and become a >> > problem so have since avoided anything which is real time such as sip or >> > audio/video. >> > >> > This is why I thought it was interesting when I saw this thread as I >> most >> > definitely like to use VM's when possible because of the benefits in >> > maintenance. >> > >> > Sounds like you don't have any concerns using OM on VM's so I think I'll >> > give it a try. I tend not to overburden blades when doing this because >> > hardware is cheap, complaints aren't. >> > >> > Thanks for the input. >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:53 AM, [email protected] < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> >> >> performance hardly depends on VM VS dedicated server. It is just often >> the >> >> case that people rent a cheap VM for 20 Euros /Bugs and then find out >> that >> >> they have no SWAP space, not enough memory et cetera and no chance in >> >> changing that with their cheap VM package as they have no control about >> the >> >> Server that hosts all the VMs and manages the HW resources. >> >> >> >> If you have a scenario where you actually have the full control about >> the >> >> VMs, virtualization has the same pro's and cons like with any other >> >> application and you can calc the IO or number of simultaneous users >> same >> >> like on a dedicated server. >> >> >> >> Absolute numbers depend on the use-case. >> >> Around 500-1000 simultaneous users for 4GB RAM, 3 GHz CPU. >> >> >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> >> >> >> 2011/6/20 Mike <[email protected]> >> >> >> >>> Can this actually be done on a vm? I've been using a dedicated server >> >>> because people used to say it wasn't worth doing on vm because of the >> >>> realtime requirements. Assuming beefy enough hardware and resources to >> the >> >>> vm, what could one expect in terms of simultaneous users? Anyone have >> any >> >>> input based on their own usage. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Sebastian Wagner < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Thanks Diogo, >> >>>> >> >>>> I have slightly modified the wiki/installation with the links: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/InstallationOpenMeetings#VMWare >> >>>> >> >>>> Sebastian >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >>>> "OpenMeetings User" group. >> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/openmeetings-user/-/iLyO0_5x604J. >> >>>> >> >>>> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>> [email protected]. >> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >>> "OpenMeetings User" group. >> >>> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>> [email protected]. >> >>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sebastian Wagner >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de >> >> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "OpenMeetings User" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "OpenMeetings User" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> . >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OpenMeetings User" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "OpenMeetings User" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. > -- Sebastian Wagner http://www.webbase-design.de http://openmeetings.googlecode.com http://www.wagner-sebastian.com [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenMeetings User" group. 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