Thank you.

-- Kevin


On 4/29/2024 2:35 PM, Thiago Milczarek Sayão wrote:
I thought about possible legal conflicts.

The code is on my github - I'm exploring and testing before starting the real work.

wayland-scanner generates code from the protocol specs, which are xml files. https://wayland.app/protocols/ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wayland.app/protocols/__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Jo_TDwcs-PU92bLqkpeok4ZlEQPsXiuBR6VfTF1dPSZ9mw24pohF8OxE3mlESTQMdQw0OeOFkX-vr7oN_qyvIrSwcvY$>

I will write a new generator/scanner from scratch - it's not too much work. The generator/scanner itself does not necessarily need to be part of the PR, but it might be a good idea to include it, since the protocol changes over time.

-- Thiago.



Em seg., 29 de abr. de 2024 às 18:10, Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com> escreveu:

    As a reminder, contributors must not include 3rd-party code in any
    openjdk repo. Per the terms of the OCA, all code that you
    contribute to OpenJDK must be your own code. This includes code
    you push to openjdk/jfx-sandbox and code in a branch of a personal
    fork of openjdk/jfx from which you create a PR.

    -- Kevin


    On 4/28/2024 2:45 PM, Thiago Milczarek Sayão wrote:
    Hi,

    I managed to display a very basic wayland toplevel surface from java:
    https://github.com/tsayao/glass-wayland
    
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    If you are using intellij, just run the "Test App" (with java 22).

    generate.sh will jextract the code from wayland-client.

    I rushed to get the window displayed - so it doesn't look good
    yet (but I do accept suggestions).

    It uses a java wayland-scanner (included) to read protocol xml
    files and generate code that uses jextracted calls.

    The sample also binds EGL and GL apis, but just because wayland
    requires a buffer to display the surface. Maybe it was easier to
    use a shared memory :)

    Credits to (I adapted it to ouput jextract compatible code):
    https://github.com/gfxstrand/wayland-java/tree/master/scanner
    
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/gfxstrand/wayland-java/tree/master/scanner__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Jo_TDwcs-PU92bLqkpeok4ZlEQPsXiuBR6VfTF1dPSZ9mw24pohF8OxE3mlESTQMdQw0OeOFkX-vr7oN_qyv70bWagY$>

    Cheers

    Em ter., 23 de abr. de 2024 às 09:11, Thiago Milczarek Sayão
    <thiago.sa...@gmail.com> escreveu:

        I'm doing some work here:
        https://github.com/tsayao/glass-wayland
        
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/tsayao/glass-wayland__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Jo_TDwcs-PU92bLqkpeok4ZlEQPsXiuBR6VfTF1dPSZ9mw24pohF8OxE3mlESTQMdQw0OeOFkX-vr7oN_qyvrMZe-eM$>

        So far it's been a good experience to use FFM / jextract.

        The idea is to plug it as a glass wayland backend when it's
        good enough.



        Em seg., 22 de abr. de 2024 às 16:16, Nir Lisker
        <nlis...@gmail.com> escreveu:

            Not sure it helps with warmup, but marking a foreign
            function as critical can improve performance:
            
https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/22/docs/api/java.base/java/lang/foreign/Linker.Option.html#critical(boolean).

            On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 10:02 PM Philip Race
            <philip.r...@oracle.com> wrote:

                No, it wasn't. I didn't even use jextracted code.
                The startup cost is around initialisation of FFM -
                around 70 ms (IIRC) overhead on my MacBook
                Then creation of VarHandles and MethodHandles - 2-5
                ms each is what I measured, so do these lazily if you
                can.
                And warmup cost is that it takes about 10000
                iterations to get code fully compiled.

                java -XX:+PrintFlagsFinal -version 2>&1 | grep
                CompileThreshold
                     intx CompileThreshold                         =
                10000                                  {pd product}
                {default}
                    double CompileThresholdScaling                  =
                1.000000 {product} {default}
                    uintx IncreaseFirstTierCompileThresholdAt      =
                50 {product} {default}
                     intx Tier2CompileThreshold                    =
                0 {product} {default}
                     intx Tier3CompileThreshold                    =
                2000 {product} {default}
                     intx Tier4CompileThreshold                    =
                15000 {product} {default}

                -phil.


                On 4/22/24 11:45 AM, Thiago Milczarek Sayão wrote:
                I think the startup time might be related to all
                static symbol lookups.
                So I'm manually including just what is needed:
                jextract --output src -t com.sun.glass.wayland.extracted \
                   --header-class-name GlassWayland \
                   `pkg-config --libs glib-2.0 gio-2.0 libportal 
wayland-client`  \
                   `pkg-config --cflags-only-I glib-2.0 gio-2.0 libportal 
wayland-client`  \
                    glass-wayland.h \
                    --include-function xdp_portal_initable_new \
                    --include-function xdp_session_close \
                    --include-function xdp_portal_open_file \
                    --include-function xdp_portal_open_file_finish \
                    --include-function g_object_unref \
                    --include-function g_timeout_add \
                    --include-function g_add_idle \
                    --include-function g_main_loop_run \
                    --include-function g_main_loop_new \
                    --include-function g_main_loop_ref \
                    --include-function g_main_loop_unref \
                    --include-function g_main_loop_quit \
                    --include-function g_settings_new \
                    --include-function g_settings_get_int \
                    --include-function wl_display_connect \
                    --include-function wl_display_disconnect \
                    --include-function wl_display_roundtrip \
                    --include-function wl_display_dispatch_pending \
                    --include-typedef GAsyncReadyCallback \
                    --include-typedef GSourceFunc \
                    --include-typedef GError

                Em seg., 22 de abr. de 2024 às 13:24, Philip Race
                <philip.r...@oracle.com> escreveu:

                    As a reminder, using FFM will require all FX
                    *applications* to specify --enable-native-access
                    on the command line
                    Although this is likely coming to JNI soon too.

                    
https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/21/core/restricted-methods.html

                    But one thing to watch out for with FFM is
                    startup + warm up time.
                    I struggled a lot with that in using FFM for
                    just one library in the java.desktop module.

                    -phil

                    On 4/22/24 9:12 AM, Nir Lisker wrote:
                    Sorry, we bumped to Java 21 in JavaFX 22 I
                    think since we preserve the N-1 rule.

                    On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 6:03 PM Nir Lisker
                    <nlis...@gmail.com> wrote:

                        I think that we'll be able to bump to Java
                        25 in JavaFX 25, like we did with 21. I
                        suggested initially to bump to Java 22
                        exactly for FFM as it's very useful for
                        JavaFX, but was told we shouldn't since
                        it's not an LTS version.

                        I have no idea how long the work on Wayland
                        will take including the code review (a
                        rather long process), but you should be
                        able to request code reviews with FFM and
                        have it ready for integration by Java 25.

                        On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 5:49 PM Thiago
                        Milczarek Sayão <thiago.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

                            I was just experimenting, but it seems
                            to be less work than going with JNI.
                            If I am correct, the next Java LTS will
                            be 25, which will be required on JavaFX
                            29 to be released on September/29.

                            It's 7 years - that's really too much.

                            Maybe it's still worthwhile to
                            prototype using FFM and then port
                            everything to JNI.

                            -- Thiago.


                            Em seg., 22 de abr. de 2024 às 11:21,
                            Kevin Rushforth
                            <kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com> escreveu:

                                Note also that we cannot use Panama
                                in the JavaFX internals yet, since
                                the minimum version of the JDK is 21.

                                -- Kevin


                                On 4/21/2024 10:51 AM, Thiago
                                Milczarek Sayão wrote:
                                > Hi,
                                >
                                > I did a small test app to explore
                                Wayland client and portals (for
                                > Robot and dialogs such as file
                                open/save).
                                >
                                >
                                
https://github.com/tsayao/wayland-test/blob/main/wayland-test.c
                                
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/tsayao/wayland-test/blob/main/wayland-test.c__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Jo_TDwcs-PU92bLqkpeok4ZlEQPsXiuBR6VfTF1dPSZ9mw24pohF8OxE3mlESTQMdQw0OeOFkX-vr7oN_qyv-uSsniA$>
                                >
                                > It seems it will work as a glass
                                backend, but some walls will be hit
                                > on the way :)
                                >
                                > I have tried to use jextract
                                (from project Panama) to work directly
                                > with java, but it seems it does
                                not support wl_ types.
                                >
                                > -- Thiago.




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