> On 5. Feb 2025, at 17:10, Udo Grabowski (IMKASF) <udo.grabow...@kit.edu> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 05-02-2025 16:02, Rolf M. Dietze wrote:
>> [..]
>>>> - sparc port of OI (why was sparc removed anyway?)
>>> 
>>> Because we do not have enough developers, we have no equipment to test 
>>> with, old SPARC systems are way too slow (20-30 minutes of illumos gate 
>>> build versus 4-5 or more hours). In short, we should be looking into the 
>>> future (get ARM64 going) and not into the past. ARM64 systems are very 
>>> affordable now, SPARC? why one should get rack server in their flat? It is 
>>> great if there are some people willing to play around with SPARC bits (I 
>>> myself do like SPARC very much), but …
>> so OI is focused only on desktop?
> 
> No, OI is the server part PLUS desktop. We use single image OI for
> both our desktops and servers for various purposes.
> 
>> Actually solaris based systems are
>> as far as I know, the only systems that support generic windows acl
>> from the zfs base via nfsv4 to the windows box. I do like to have an OI
>> zfs fileserver for windows desktops that supports real acls.
> 
> OI supports real ACLs because it builds on stock illumos.
> 
>> And for the sparc systems, there is nothing that stable as sparc
>> hardware. and obp on it is far more comfortable as this BIOS stuff.
>> one doen't realy have a text console on off the shelf BIOS boxes
>> Used sparc T2 boxes are damm cheap to get if one isn't just giving
>> them out nothing
> 
> We dumped our sparcs 25 years ago because already then they were a
> factor of 6 too slow compared to the then recent DEC hardware (ES40),
> which was superseeded by even faster Sun x86 machines (Blade 8000).
> Cannot comprehend why anyone would stick to SPARC today except for
> computer museum show cases …
> 

Actually T8’s are still rather powerful for machine with GA 2017;) but of 
course, PCIe 3.0 and DDR4 are what they are...

rgds,
toomas


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