23 сентября 2016 г. 9:51:49 CEST, "Aurélien Larcher" <aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> пишет: >On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Мартин Бохниг via openindiana-discuss ><openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> yep, that's clear (pls. see my mail). >> >> But my question was, why they are defined as mutually exclusive. >> It is in 99% of cases perhaps a valid expectation, that newer is >better than older and that 4.9 superceedes 4.7 and that you at best >keep one copy of gcc3.x in place (the newest one) plus the same for 4.x >(4.9) and some day 5.x (at the moment 5.4). >> >> But why can's a user have both 4.9 and 4.7 plus 4.8 at once? >> >> That was defined like this in the manifests and I'm not yet anough >familiar with ips to know every nitty gritty. >> But my proposal is to change this back to a scenario where I can >install what I want (of those packages that are available). >> >> In /usr/gcc there is no filesystem namespace conflict. >> Or are the really poor symlinks to /usr/bin the the reason for this >exclusiveness? >> >> IMHO not an ideal design, same remarks as with Qt4.8 versus whatever. > >The situation is already as you say for GCC, Qt, clang and the MPI >implementations etc... and even with JPEG libraries. >We always have several version installed in their own prefix and >symlinks to the current default in /usr > >For GCC they even have their own copy of gmp, mpfr and mpc. >For gcc-5 I provided *-5 symlinks in /usr/bin but they do not harm >anyone. > >Kind regards, > >Aurelien > >> >> I could look myslef, but let me simply ask: Are the symlinks to >/usr/bin part of the same package or of extra dedicated symlinks >packages? >> If not the latter, then the former should in the future be changed >into the latter, no? >> >> Forgive me if I am missing anything here. >> On my old OpenSXCE devel machine I got used to having all compilers >installed at once (in /usr/gcc) and no silly symlinks to /usr/bin. >> >> It is sometimes very useful to have all compilers quickly at hand for >an instant comparison. >> >> >> Thanks, >> best regards, >> %martin bochnig >> >> >> >>>Пятница, 23 сентября 2016, 7:23 UTC от Alexander Pyhalov ><a...@rsu.ru>: >>> >>>On 09/23/16 10:19 AM, Мартин Бохниг via openindiana-discuss wrote: >>>> Ok, another self-correction after a long Vbox night. >>>> >>>> gcc4.5 is not in the repo (although it was for a long time part of >userland along with 4.7 and 4.8). >>>> >>>> Obviously I cannot install something (gcc4.5) which isn't in the >repo. >>> >>>Hi. >>> >>>Currently, we provide >>> >>>$ pkg info -r developer/gcc* >>> Name: developer/gcc-3 >>> Summary: gcc - The GNU C compiler >>> Description: GNU C - The GNU C compiler 3.4.3 >>> Category: Development/C >>> State: Not installed >>> Publisher: openindiana.org >>> Version: 3.4.3 >>> Branch: 2016.0.0.1 >>>Packaging Date: July 29, 2016 11:29:45 PM >>> Size: 89.83 MB >>> FMRI: >>>pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-3@3.4.3-2016.0.0.1:20160729T232945Z >>> Project URL: http://gcc.gnu.org/ >>> Source URL: >>>http://dlc.openindiana.org/oi-build/source-archives/gcc-3.4.3.tar.gz >>> >>># As you can see, this one was removed: >>> Name: developer/gcc-47 >>> State: Not installed (Obsolete) >>> Publisher: openindiana.org >>> Version: 4.7.4 >>> Branch: 2015.0.2.0 >>>Packaging Date: August 16, 2016 05:57:15 PM >>> Size: 0.00 B >>> FMRI: >>>pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-47@4.7.4-2015.0.2.0:20160816T175715Z >>> >>> Name: developer/gcc-48 >>> Summary: GNU Compiler Collection >>> Category: Development/C >>> State: Not installed >>> Publisher: openindiana.org >>> Version: 4.8.5 >>> Branch: 2016.0.0.1 >>>Packaging Date: July 29, 2016 11:30:11 PM >>> Size: 465.49 MB >>> FMRI: >>>pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2016.0.0.1:20160729T233011Z >>> Project URL: http://gcc.gnu.org/ >>> Source URL: >http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc/gcc-4.8.5/gcc-4.8.5.tar.bz2 >>> >>> Name: developer/gcc-49 >>> Summary: GNU Compiler Collection >>> Category: Development/C >>> State: Installed >>> Publisher: openindiana.org >>> Version: 4.9.4 >>> Branch: 2016.0.0.0 >>>Packaging Date: August 13, 2016 02:25:36 PM >>> Size: 518.15 MB >>> FMRI: >>>pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-49@4.9.4-2016.0.0.0:20160813T142536Z >>> Project URL: http://gcc.gnu.org/ >>> Source URL: >http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc/gcc-4.9.4/gcc-4.9.4.tar.bz2 >>> >>> Name: developer/gcc-5 >>> Summary: GNU Compiler Collection >>> Category: Development/C >>> State: Not installed >>> Publisher: openindiana.org >>> Version: 5.4.0 >>> Branch: 2016.0.1.1 >>>Packaging Date: September 12, 2016 12:19:32 PM >>> Size: 667.23 MB >>> FMRI: >>>pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-5@5.4.0-2016.0.1.1:20160912T121932Z >>> Project URL: http://gcc.gnu.org/ >>> Source URL: >http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc/gcc-5.4.0/gcc-5.4.0.tar.bz2 >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Best regards, >>>Alexander Pyhalov, >>>system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openindiana-discuss mailing list >> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > > >-- >--- >Praise the Caffeine embeddings > >_______________________________________________ >openindiana-discuss mailing list >openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org >https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Just for completeness: there are symlinks delivered in common paths like /usr/bin that point to a current default version picked by user and installed into a unique non-conflicting location. This is done (and changed) with IPS mediator 'actions'. Hope this helps, Jim -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
