I wasn't going to add to this discussion, otherwise I might sound bitter when in fact I'm more disappointed with myself, and the fact I've chosen the "easy" option...
FYI I still have OI in a virtualbox, but no longer run it as my GUI or even every day. I know I'm a coder, and should help write drivers, but my driver writing experience is 16 years ago on an old Linux SCSI driver, and that was more of a code chasing exercise. I don't even write in C any more, mostly PL/SQL, perl and ruby. Unlike 16 years ago, I'm now a dad of 3, one autistic, and I have very little spare time when not in the office. I felt the best way to help the "community" was to _use_ OI on a daily basis, report back issues and potential work arounds (915resolution being one of them), and to help on the discussion boards when people asked questions I felt I could answer. This thread wasn't a complaint about the work you guys do, and I do hope you continue to do it, more a comment on the fact that I felt I couldn't continue to work for my employers using OI as my primary desktop because it currently isn't fit for purpose. I was under a lot of pressure from the other coders to get in line with Ubuntu, like they use, and I could no longer justify staying with it as my GUI, even if I can still run it on my servers. Jon On 8 Jun 2015 19:34, "David Brodbeck" <bro...@uw.edu> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Apostolos Syropoulos via > openindiana-discuss <openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > > The real problem is that OI has no community---just people who contribute > > almost nothing (of course there are brilliant exceptions...) and who are > > always critical about this and about that. > > > I think partly this is because there's a very high barrier to entry. For > example, last I heard building the complete system from source still > required access to a closed-source, non-publicly-available compiler. > Documentation is scattered and much of it is out of date. I can see why a > new user, even one with coding experience, wouldn't want to wade into > that. The situation is slowly improving, but it's starting from a culture > where builds were handed down from an elite few, and that takes time to > change. (Partly this is also a difference between the "cathedral" model > vs. the "bazaar" model. A lot of what makes OI and FreeBSD attractive in > terms of consistency and stability comes from the cathedral model, which > also tends to result in slower development.) > > > > As about the drivers, why don't you work on the new driver? > > > Kernel drivers are a pretty esoteric area in any OS, and doubly so in OI. > I don't think there have been very many community changes to the drivers > handed down from Oracle. > > -- > D. Brodbeck > System Administrator, Linguistics > University of Washington > GPG key fingerprint: 0DB7 4B50 8910 DBC5 B510 79C4 3970 2BC3 2078 D875 > _______________________________________________ > openindiana-discuss mailing list > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > _______________________________________________ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
