OK I did not know this feature had a performance impact. If this is a 
significant impact, I agree with putting this in a config flag with default OFF.


> On Jun 16, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Jozef Bacigal -X (jbacigal - PANTHEON 
> TECHNOLOGIES at Cisco) <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I propose, llike we discuss on the last meeting, to make an openflow config 
> switch to add the possibility to switch on and off the flow removal 
> notification with default state OFF, that we don't have any performance 
> issue. 
> 
> Jozef
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] 
> <[email protected]> on behalf of Luis Gomez 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:43 PM
> To: Manohar SL
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [openflowplugin-dev] Bug 5602 - Li Migration: Problems to  
> detect the removal of flow entries
> 
> +1, it is already bad OF protocol does not support Flow Added message, at 
> least if it supports Flow Removed lets use it.
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Manohar SL <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> It would be good to retain the handling of " OFPT_FLOW_REMOVED" handling 
>> similar to the He PlugIn.
>> This also accounts to OpenFlow Compliance.
>> 
>> Basing the detection of the Flow Removal on Stats based solution will be 
>> very costly, in the context of time consumed for the detection of the flow 
>> removal.
>> Completely agree with the below very valid points mentioned by Hideyuki Tai:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>> This is about problems which applications face when it needs to detect the 
>> removal of flow entries.
>> 1. It takes so long time (several seconds) to detect the removal.
>> 2. It is possible that applications fail to detect the removal.
>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> 
>> Also, there should always be the flexibility to disable Stats at any given 
>> time.
>> If the Flow Removal detection is based on Stats functionality, then we will 
>> land up in losing this basic OpenFlow functionality.
>> 
>> So, request to retain the Flow Removed handling similar to OF He PlugIn.
>> 
>> Regs,
>> Manohar.
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 23:14:28 +0000
>> From: "Tai, Hideyuki" <[email protected]>
>> To: openflowplugin-dev <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [openflowplugin-dev] Bug 5602
>> Message-ID:
>>      <c71616c1c81143b5bb3c234f53612...@dlncacitexmbx03.na-idm.na-gad.nec.com>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Hi OpenFlow Plugin project,
>> 
>> VTN project would like the OpenFlow Plugin project to provide a way to solve 
>> the bug 5602 in the OFP-Li (the new plugin).
>> This is about problems which applications face when it needs to detect the 
>> removal of flow entries.
>> 1. It takes so long time (several seconds) to detect the removal.
>> 2. It is possible that applications fail to detect the removal.
>> 
>> You can find more detailed explanation in the Bugzilla.
>> https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5602
>> 
>> Please note that the OFP-He (the old plugin) doesn't have this issue.
>> 
>> First, I would like you to decide by which way we solve the problems in 
>> Boron.
>> 
>> I think there are several ways.
>> 
>> One way is to support FlowRemoved notification like the OFP-He does.
>> Actually, there are patches for that way.
>>   https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/38639
>>   https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/39906/
>>   https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/39552/
>> 
>> Since the patch (gerrit 38639) is merged, I thought OFP project decided to 
>> take this approach.
>> 
>> Another way is to update the operational DS (flow-node-inventory:table) 
>> immediately after the OFP-Li receives FLOW_REMOVED from openflowjava.
>> Then, applications can detect the removal of flow entries correctly using 
>> listeners for the DS.
>> 
>> Which way do you take for Boron?
>> Or other way?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Hideyuki Tai
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 16:35:00 -0700
>> From: Jamo Luhrsen <[email protected]>
>> To: "[email protected]"
>>      <[email protected]>,
>>      "[email protected]"
>>      <[email protected]>,    
>> OpenDayLight-L2switch-Dev
>>      <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [openflowplugin-dev] CSIT troubles.
>>      openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Earlier today I pointed out [0] that l2switch had something broken 
>> happening, but now I think I notice it in openflowplugin CSIT [1] as well.  
>> This job is getting aborted as it's running for 6 hours (or timeout for 
>> these jobs) normally it's a 20m test.
>> 
>> something serious here.
>> 
>> the exception in the bug [2] may give a clue.
>> 
>> 
>> JamO
>> 
>> [0] 
>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/integration-dev/2016-June/007073.html
>> [1] 
>> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/job/openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
>> [2] https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6042
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 23:37:48 +0000
>> From: "Venkatrangan G - ERS, HCL Tech" <[email protected]>
>> To: Jamo Luhrsen <[email protected]>,
>>      "[email protected]"
>>      <[email protected]>,
>>      "[email protected]"
>>      <[email protected]>, OpenDayLight-L2switch-Dev
>>      <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [openflowplugin-dev] CSIT troubles.
>>      openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
>> Message-ID:
>>      
>> <sg2pr04mb1246119085c591d691f76117a3...@sg2pr04mb1246.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We are facing this with the VTN jobs as well
>> Reference: 
>> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/vtn/job/vtn-csit-1node-openstack-mitak
>>  a-neutron-beryllium/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/odl1_karaf.log.tar.xz
>> 
>>> From our understanding, the PACKET_IN handling is causing this.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Venkat G
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jamo 
>> Luhrsen
>> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:35 PM
>> To: [email protected]; 
>> [email protected]; OpenDayLight-L2switch-Dev 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [openflowplugin-dev] CSIT troubles. 
>> openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
>> 
>> Earlier today I pointed out [0] that l2switch had something broken 
>> happening, but now I think I notice it in openflowplugin CSIT [1] as well.  
>> This job is getting aborted as it's running for 6 hours (or timeout for 
>> these jobs) normally it's a 20m test.
>> 
>> something serious here.
>> 
>> the exception in the bug [2] may give a clue.
>> 
>> 
>> JamO
>> 
>> [0] 
>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/integration-dev/2016-June/007073.html
>> [1] 
>> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/job/openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
>> [2] https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6042
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 16:54:22 -0700
>> From: Luis Gomez <[email protected]>
>> To: controller-dev <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected]"
>>      <[email protected]>,
>>      "[email protected]"
>>      <[email protected]>,    
>> OpenDayLight-L2switch-Dev
>>      <[email protected]>,
>>      "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [openflowplugin-dev] CSIT troubles.
>>      openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Hi controller dev,
>> 
>> It seems this patch (according to CI times) broke OF he plugin topology + OF 
>> Li plugin topology + inventory with all the consequences in the downstream 
>> projects:
>> 
>> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/38962/ 
>> <https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/38962/>
>> 
>> I see this patch is part of a larger controller merge list, so is the 
>> regression expected as part of some major change (e.g. Whether) or is this 
>> unexpected regression?
>> 
>> BR/Luis
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Venkatrangan G - ERS, HCL Tech 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> We are facing this with the VTN jobs as well
>>> Reference:
>>> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/vtn/job/vtn-csit-1node-op
>>> enstack-mitak
>>> a-neutron-beryllium/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/odl1_karaf.log.tar.xz
>>> 
>>> From our understanding, the PACKET_IN handling is causing this.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Venkat G
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>>> Of Jamo Luhrsen
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:35 PM
>>> To: [email protected];
>>> [email protected]; OpenDayLight-L2switch-Dev
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [openflowplugin-dev] CSIT troubles.
>>> openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
>>> 
>>> Earlier today I pointed out [0] that l2switch had something broken 
>>> happening, but now I think I notice it in openflowplugin CSIT [1] as well.  
>>> This job is getting aborted as it's running for 6 hours (or timeout for 
>>> these jobs) normally it's a 20m test.
>>> 
>>> something serious here.
>>> 
>>> the exception in the bug [2] may give a clue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> JamO
>>> 
>>> [0]
>>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/integration-dev/2016-June/007
>>> 073.html [1]
>>> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/job/openflowplugin-csit-1node-
>>> flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
>>> [2] https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6042
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