+1, it is already bad OF protocol does not support Flow Added message, at least 
if it supports Flow Removed lets use it.

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Manohar SL <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> It would be good to retain the handling of " OFPT_FLOW_REMOVED" handling 
> similar to the He PlugIn.
> This also accounts to OpenFlow Compliance.
> 
> Basing the detection of the Flow Removal on Stats based solution will be very 
> costly, in the context of time consumed for the detection of the flow removal.
> Completely agree with the below very valid points mentioned by Hideyuki Tai:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> This is about problems which applications face when it needs to detect the 
> removal of flow entries.
>  1. It takes so long time (several seconds) to detect the removal.
>  2. It is possible that applications fail to detect the removal.
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> Also, there should always be the flexibility to disable Stats at any given 
> time.
> If the Flow Removal detection is based on Stats functionality, then we will 
> land up in losing this basic OpenFlow functionality.
> 
> So, request to retain the Flow Removed handling similar to OF He PlugIn.
> 
> Regs,
> Manohar.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 23:14:28 +0000
> From: "Tai, Hideyuki" <[email protected]>
> To: openflowplugin-dev <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [openflowplugin-dev] Bug 5602
> Message-ID:
>       <c71616c1c81143b5bb3c234f53612...@dlncacitexmbx03.na-idm.na-gad.nec.com>
>       
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi OpenFlow Plugin project,
> 
> VTN project would like the OpenFlow Plugin project to provide a way to solve 
> the bug 5602 in the OFP-Li (the new plugin).
> This is about problems which applications face when it needs to detect the 
> removal of flow entries.
>  1. It takes so long time (several seconds) to detect the removal.
>  2. It is possible that applications fail to detect the removal.
> 
> You can find more detailed explanation in the Bugzilla.
> https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5602
> 
> Please note that the OFP-He (the old plugin) doesn't have this issue.
> 
> First, I would like you to decide by which way we solve the problems in Boron.
> 
> I think there are several ways.
> 
> One way is to support FlowRemoved notification like the OFP-He does.
> Actually, there are patches for that way.
>    https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/38639
>    https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/39906/
>    https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/39552/
> 
> Since the patch (gerrit 38639) is merged, I thought OFP project decided to 
> take this approach.
> 
> Another way is to update the operational DS (flow-node-inventory:table) 
> immediately after the OFP-Li receives FLOW_REMOVED from openflowjava.
> Then, applications can detect the removal of flow entries correctly using 
> listeners for the DS.
> 
> Which way do you take for Boron?
> Or other way?
> 
> Regards,
> Hideyuki Tai
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 16:35:00 -0700
> From: Jamo Luhrsen <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]"
>       <[email protected]>,
>       "[email protected]"
>       <[email protected]>,    
> OpenDayLight-L2switch-Dev
>       <[email protected]>
> Subject: [openflowplugin-dev] CSIT troubles.
>       openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Earlier today I pointed out [0] that l2switch had something broken happening, 
> but now I think I notice it in openflowplugin CSIT [1] as well.  This job is 
> getting aborted as it's running for 6 hours (or timeout for these jobs) 
> normally it's a 20m test.
> 
> something serious here.
> 
> the exception in the bug [2] may give a clue.
> 
> 
> JamO
> 
> [0] 
> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/integration-dev/2016-June/007073.html
> [1] 
> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/job/openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
> [2] https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6042
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 23:37:48 +0000
> From: "Venkatrangan G - ERS, HCL Tech" <[email protected]>
> To: Jamo Luhrsen <[email protected]>,
>       "[email protected]"
>       <[email protected]>,
>       "[email protected]"
>       <[email protected]>, OpenDayLight-L2switch-Dev
>       <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [openflowplugin-dev] CSIT troubles.
>       openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
> Message-ID:
>       
> <sg2pr04mb1246119085c591d691f76117a3...@sg2pr04mb1246.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
>       
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We are facing this with the VTN jobs as well
> Reference: 
> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/vtn/job/vtn-csit-1node-openstack-mitak
>  a-neutron-beryllium/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/odl1_karaf.log.tar.xz
> 
>> From our understanding, the PACKET_IN handling is causing this. 
> 
> Regards,
> Venkat G
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jamo 
> Luhrsen
> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:35 PM
> To: [email protected]; 
> [email protected]; OpenDayLight-L2switch-Dev 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: [openflowplugin-dev] CSIT troubles. 
> openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
> 
> Earlier today I pointed out [0] that l2switch had something broken happening, 
> but now I think I notice it in openflowplugin CSIT [1] as well.  This job is 
> getting aborted as it's running for 6 hours (or timeout for these jobs) 
> normally it's a 20m test.
> 
> something serious here.
> 
> the exception in the bug [2] may give a clue.
> 
> 
> JamO
> 
> [0] 
> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/integration-dev/2016-June/007073.html
> [1] 
> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/job/openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
> [2] https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6042
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 16:54:22 -0700
> From: Luis Gomez <[email protected]>
> To: controller-dev <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]"
>       <[email protected]>,
>       "[email protected]"
>       <[email protected]>,    
> OpenDayLight-L2switch-Dev
>       <[email protected]>,
>       "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [openflowplugin-dev] CSIT troubles.
>       openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> Hi controller dev,
> 
> It seems this patch (according to CI times) broke OF he plugin topology + OF 
> Li plugin topology + inventory with all the consequences in the downstream 
> projects:
> 
> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/38962/ 
> <https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/38962/>
> 
> I see this patch is part of a larger controller merge list, so is the 
> regression expected as part of some major change (e.g. Whether) or is this 
> unexpected regression?
> 
> BR/Luis
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Venkatrangan G - ERS, HCL Tech 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We are facing this with the VTN jobs as well
>> Reference: 
>> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/vtn/job/vtn-csit-1node-op
>> enstack-mitak 
>> a-neutron-beryllium/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/odl1_karaf.log.tar.xz
>> 
>> From our understanding, the PACKET_IN handling is causing this. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Venkat G
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Jamo Luhrsen
>> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:35 PM
>> To: [email protected]; 
>> [email protected]; OpenDayLight-L2switch-Dev 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [openflowplugin-dev] CSIT troubles. 
>> openflowplugin-csit-1node-flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
>> 
>> Earlier today I pointed out [0] that l2switch had something broken 
>> happening, but now I think I notice it in openflowplugin CSIT [1] as well.  
>> This job is getting aborted as it's running for 6 hours (or timeout for 
>> these jobs) normally it's a 20m test.
>> 
>> something serious here.
>> 
>> the exception in the bug [2] may give a clue.
>> 
>> 
>> JamO
>> 
>> [0] 
>> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/integration-dev/2016-June/007
>> 073.html [1] 
>> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/job/openflowplugin-csit-1node-
>> flow-services-lithium-redesign-only-boron
>> [2] https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6042
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