> On May 4, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Jamo Luhrsen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 05/04/2016 09:31 AM, Luis Gomez wrote:
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Jamo Luhrsen <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the blocking bug definitions, Luis.  They seem reasonable to me.
>>> 
>>> What about SRs though?  Should they be treated differently?  I was under the
>>> impression that, in general, only bug fixes would go in to SRs.  If that's
>>> the case then we can hold SRs to a slightly higher standard.
>> 
>> I am good with setting higher standards for SRs. We can write a draft an 
>> present it in the TSC.
> 
> An,
> 
> do we define what can/cannot make it in to an SRs?
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> BTW, for this specific issue and the -li plugin wouldn't we expect forward
>>> thinking consumers to be using it, assuming they realize this is the plugin
>>> that will be default going forward.  I do remember talking with someone
>>> at our last Summit (9-10mo ago) and they implied that real customers were
>>> using the -li plugin version because it was more stable.  Are we breaking
>>> them with Be SR2?
>> 
>> My answer here is people can use non-released code at their own risk.
> 
> wait, it's not released code or it's just not the default plugin that is 
> consumed
> by other projects.
> 
> I can easily take Beryllium (or Lithium for that matter) and install the -li 
> plugin
> if that's all I need for my purposes.  We even explain how to use it in the 
> user
> guide.

I thought there was no mention of Li plugin in the the release documentation, 
if there is then it is blocker :)

> 
> JamO
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> JamO
>>> 
>>> On 05/03/2016 11:58 PM, Luis Gomez wrote:
>>>> Hi Jamo, I agree with you, we should avoid any kind of regression when we 
>>>> release something.
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding what is blocker we have this definition for reference in the 
>>>> Weather wiki:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     Blocking Bugs definition
>>>> 
>>>> Blocking bugs may meet one or more of the following conditions:
>>>> 
>>>> * Cause a major controller-wide regression. e.g: A bug in openflowplugin 
>>>> prevents OpenFlow switches from connecting.
>>>> * Cause a major regression in another project. e.g: A bug in OVSDB causes 
>>>> GBP service to fail.
>>>> * Dramatically decrease controller performance or scale. e.g: A bug in 
>>>> yangtools causes OpenFlow perf test results to decrease by an order of
>>>> magnitude.
>>>> * Are immediately obvious to users. e.g: A bug in DLUX makes topology 
>>>> unavailable in the GUI.
>>>> 
>>>> Generally, major regressions are likely candidates. Of course, terms like 
>>>> "major" require substantial case-by-case interpretation.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This particular issue: "OF plugin Li feature fails to deploy in cluster" 
>>>> would be a "major" controller regression if it was not because afaik and
>>>> after lot of discussion we never released the Li plugin in Beryllium, not 
>>>> even as individual feature. So to me this is a "major regression" in a non
>>>> released functionality which makes the bug non blocking imo.
>>>> 
>>>> BR/Luis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 3, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Jamo Luhrsen <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know I'm the oddball here, but I am against releasing an SR with a 
>>>>> known regression.  Even
>>>>> if the regression is in a non-default feature, or intermittent or some 
>>>>> other rare corner of
>>>>> our product.  If it's truly a regression, then something has changed that 
>>>>> we should track
>>>>> down and resolve.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hopefully that can be part of our culture and process.  If regressions 
>>>>> are sneaking in, then
>>>>> I say we have to pay the price to fix them and try to get better at 
>>>>> preventing them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have nowhere near 100% system test coverage (if that's even possible), 
>>>>> so one worry is
>>>>> that whatever this regression is lurking in other places.
>>>>> 
>>>>> it's only my 2c.
>>>>> 
>>>>> JamO
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 05/03/2016 06:18 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare wrote:
>>>>>> Yes - that is what we were discussing on the OpenFlow Plugin IRC. This 
>>>>>> is not a blocker since it does not affect the end users - however we can 
>>>>>> wait
>>>>>> till Wednesday morning (say 10 am Pacific) to get a response/fix from 
>>>>>> Jozef (with Michal's help in merging it). Apparently it takes 24 hours 
>>>>>> for a
>>>>>> respin - 12 hours to build & 12 hours to get approvals from project 
>>>>>> leads.
>>>>>> If the ETA for the fix in the morning from Jozef pushes the build beyond 
>>>>>> the TSC meeting - then we should skip.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:55 PM, An Ho <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I agree with this Anil.  Beryllium end users should not be using the Li 
>>>>>> Plugin Design.____
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  __ __
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  If Jamo, Abhijit, and Jozef agrees with this, then we should mark the 
>>>>>> issue as not a regression blocker and OKAY to release.____
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  __ __
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Best Regards,____
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  An Ho____
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  __ __
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  *From:*Anil Vishnoi [mailto:[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>]
>>>>>>  *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 5:48 PM
>>>>>>  *To:* Abhijit Kumbhare
>>>>>>  *Cc:* An Ho; [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  *Subject:* Re: [openflowplugin-dev] Li plugin cluster broken____
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  __ __
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  In my opinion this is not a blocker, given that this plugin is not a 
>>>>>> default plugin for Beryllium release.____
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  __ __
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I would like to know Jozef's thoughts on this.____
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  __ __
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:15 PM, An Ho <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Have we been able to determine if this is a blocker, in the sense that 
>>>>>> some end-user functionality that worked in SR1 no longer works in SR2?
>>>>>>  Also, do have a known workaround for the issue?  Could we release SR2 
>>>>>> with this known bug and workaround and target a fix in SR3?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Another concern I have is that Beryllium SR2 Build 20160425 did not 
>>>>>> find any regression issues in openflowplugin and we have not merged nay
>>>>>>  patches that impacted openflowplugin in the Beryllium branches.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Best Regards,
>>>>>>  An Ho
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  From: Abhijit Kumbhare abhijitkoss at gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> 
>>>>>> <http://gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>> <http://gmail.com 
>>>>>> <http://gmail.com/>>
>>>>>>  Subject: Tue May 3 15:49:42 UTC 2016
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Can you share the list of the patches Jozef?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>>>  Abhijit
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen at gmail.com 
>>>>>> <http://gmail.com/> <http://gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>>
>>>>>> <http://gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> just to confirm that this should not be a blocker for SR2, right?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> if so, we'll need your patches merged (and associated with a bug) and a
>>>>>>> respin of
>>>>>>> SR2.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> JamO
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 05/03/2016 01:56 AM, Jozef Bacigal -X (jbacigal - PANTHEON 
>>>>>>> TECHNOLOGIES
>>>>>>> at Cisco) wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is happening, occasionally, we solved it already in plugin. 
>>>>>>>> Patches
>>>>>>> are ready to be merged we just wait for beryllium to be unlocked.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jozef
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: openflowplugin-dev-bounces at lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/> <http://lists.opendaylight.org
>>>>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/>> [mailto:
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>>>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/>>] On Behalf Of Jamo
>>>>>>> Luhrsen
>>>>>>>> Sent: 3. mája 2016 5:57
>>>>>>>> To: Luis Gomez <ecelgp at gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> 
>>>>>>>> <http://gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>> <http://gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> <http://gmail.com/>>>;
>>>>>>>> openflowplugin-dev <
>>>>>>> openflowplugin-dev at lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/> <http://lists.opendaylight.org 
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>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [openflowplugin-dev] Li plugin cluster broken
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This looks like something that used to happen from time to time.  
>>>>>>>> Oldest
>>>>>>> example was back on 4/17.  However, it currently looks like it's 
>>>>>>> happening
>>>>>>> almost every time.  That's a bit worrisome.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I tried to recreate locally, but could not.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> not sure if that's helpful or not, but wanted to share.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> JamO
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 05/02/2016 10:19 AM, Luis Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It seems Li plugin cluster is broken for few days now. The ERROR is
>>>>>>>>> 401 Unauthorized answer when polling the NB REST API. This happens 
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> controller does not start properly.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/CSIT-3node/job/openflowpl
>>>>>>>>> ugin-csit-3node-clustering-only-boron
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/CSIT-3node/job/openflowp
>>>>>>>>> lugin-csit-3node-clustering-only-beryllium/_
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> BR/Luis
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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