> On May 4, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Jamo Luhrsen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the blocking bug definitions, Luis.  They seem reasonable to me.
> 
> What about SRs though?  Should they be treated differently?  I was under the
> impression that, in general, only bug fixes would go in to SRs.  If that's
> the case then we can hold SRs to a slightly higher standard.

I am good with setting higher standards for SRs. We can write a draft an 
present it in the TSC.

> 
> BTW, for this specific issue and the -li plugin wouldn't we expect forward
> thinking consumers to be using it, assuming they realize this is the plugin
> that will be default going forward.  I do remember talking with someone
> at our last Summit (9-10mo ago) and they implied that real customers were
> using the -li plugin version because it was more stable.  Are we breaking
> them with Be SR2?

My answer here is people can use non-released code at their own risk.

> 
> JamO
> 
> On 05/03/2016 11:58 PM, Luis Gomez wrote:
>> Hi Jamo, I agree with you, we should avoid any kind of regression when we 
>> release something.
>> 
>> Regarding what is blocker we have this definition for reference in the 
>> Weather wiki:
>> 
>> 
>>      Blocking Bugs definition
>> 
>> Blocking bugs may meet one or more of the following conditions:
>> 
>>  * Cause a major controller-wide regression. e.g: A bug in openflowplugin 
>> prevents OpenFlow switches from connecting.
>>  * Cause a major regression in another project. e.g: A bug in OVSDB causes 
>> GBP service to fail.
>>  * Dramatically decrease controller performance or scale. e.g: A bug in 
>> yangtools causes OpenFlow perf test results to decrease by an order of 
>> magnitude.
>>  * Are immediately obvious to users. e.g: A bug in DLUX makes topology 
>> unavailable in the GUI.
>> 
>> Generally, major regressions are likely candidates. Of course, terms like 
>> "major" require substantial case-by-case interpretation.
>> 
>> 
>> This particular issue: "OF plugin Li feature fails to deploy in cluster" 
>> would be a "major" controller regression if it was not because afaik and
>> after lot of discussion we never released the Li plugin in Beryllium, not 
>> even as individual feature. So to me this is a "major regression" in a non
>> released functionality which makes the bug non blocking imo.
>> 
>> BR/Luis
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Jamo Luhrsen <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know I'm the oddball here, but I am against releasing an SR with a known 
>>> regression.  Even
>>> if the regression is in a non-default feature, or intermittent or some 
>>> other rare corner of
>>> our product.  If it's truly a regression, then something has changed that 
>>> we should track
>>> down and resolve.
>>> 
>>> Hopefully that can be part of our culture and process.  If regressions are 
>>> sneaking in, then
>>> I say we have to pay the price to fix them and try to get better at 
>>> preventing them.
>>> 
>>> We have nowhere near 100% system test coverage (if that's even possible), 
>>> so one worry is
>>> that whatever this regression is lurking in other places.
>>> 
>>> it's only my 2c.
>>> 
>>> JamO
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 05/03/2016 06:18 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare wrote:
>>>> Yes - that is what we were discussing on the OpenFlow Plugin IRC. This is 
>>>> not a blocker since it does not affect the end users - however we can wait
>>>> till Wednesday morning (say 10 am Pacific) to get a response/fix from 
>>>> Jozef (with Michal's help in merging it). Apparently it takes 24 hours for 
>>>> a
>>>> respin - 12 hours to build & 12 hours to get approvals from project leads.
>>>> If the ETA for the fix in the morning from Jozef pushes the build beyond 
>>>> the TSC meeting - then we should skip.
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:55 PM, An Ho <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   I agree with this Anil.  Beryllium end users should not be using the Li 
>>>> Plugin Design.____
>>>> 
>>>>   __ __
>>>> 
>>>>   If Jamo, Abhijit, and Jozef agrees with this, then we should mark the 
>>>> issue as not a regression blocker and OKAY to release.____
>>>> 
>>>>   __ __
>>>> 
>>>>   Best Regards,____
>>>> 
>>>>   An Ho____
>>>> 
>>>>   __ __
>>>> 
>>>>   *From:*Anil Vishnoi [mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>]
>>>>   *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2016 5:48 PM
>>>>   *To:* Abhijit Kumbhare
>>>>   *Cc:* An Ho; [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   *Subject:* Re: [openflowplugin-dev] Li plugin cluster broken____
>>>> 
>>>>   __ __
>>>> 
>>>>   In my opinion this is not a blocker, given that this plugin is not a 
>>>> default plugin for Beryllium release.____
>>>> 
>>>>   __ __
>>>> 
>>>>   On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:____
>>>> 
>>>>   I would like to know Jozef's thoughts on this.____
>>>> 
>>>>   __ __
>>>> 
>>>>   On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:15 PM, An Ho <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:____
>>>> 
>>>>   Have we been able to determine if this is a blocker, in the sense that 
>>>> some end-user functionality that worked in SR1 no longer works in SR2?
>>>>   Also, do have a known workaround for the issue?  Could we release SR2 
>>>> with this known bug and workaround and target a fix in SR3?
>>>> 
>>>>   Another concern I have is that Beryllium SR2 Build 20160425 did not find 
>>>> any regression issues in openflowplugin and we have not merged nay
>>>>   patches that impacted openflowplugin in the Beryllium branches.
>>>> 
>>>>   Best Regards,
>>>>   An Ho
>>>> 
>>>>   From: Abhijit Kumbhare abhijitkoss at gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> 
>>>> <http://gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>> <http://gmail.com 
>>>> <http://gmail.com/>>
>>>>   Subject: Tue May 3 15:49:42 UTC 2016
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   Can you share the list of the patches Jozef?
>>>> 
>>>>   Thanks,
>>>>   Abhijit
>>>> 
>>>>   On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Jamo Luhrsen <jluhrsen at gmail.com 
>>>> <http://gmail.com/> <http://gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>> 
>>>> <http://gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> just to confirm that this should not be a blocker for SR2, right?
>>>>> 
>>>>> if so, we'll need your patches merged (and associated with a bug) and a
>>>>> respin of
>>>>> SR2.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> JamO
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 05/03/2016 01:56 AM, Jozef Bacigal -X (jbacigal - PANTHEON TECHNOLOGIES
>>>>> at Cisco) wrote:
>>>>>> This is happening, occasionally, we solved it already in plugin. Patches
>>>>> are ready to be merged we just wait for beryllium to be unlocked.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jozef
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: openflowplugin-dev-bounces at lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/> <http://lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/>> [mailto:
>>>>> openflowplugin-dev-bounces at lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/> <http://lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/>>] On Behalf Of Jamo
>>>>> Luhrsen
>>>>>> Sent: 3. mája 2016 5:57
>>>>>> To: Luis Gomez <ecelgp at gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> 
>>>>>> <http://gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>> <http://gmail.com 
>>>>>> <http://gmail.com/>>>; openflowplugin-dev <
>>>>> openflowplugin-dev at lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/> <http://lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org 
>>>>> <http://lists.opendaylight.org/>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [openflowplugin-dev] Li plugin cluster broken
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This looks like something that used to happen from time to time.  Oldest
>>>>> example was back on 4/17.  However, it currently looks like it's happening
>>>>> almost every time.  That's a bit worrisome.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tried to recreate locally, but could not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> not sure if that's helpful or not, but wanted to share.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> JamO
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 05/02/2016 10:19 AM, Luis Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It seems Li plugin cluster is broken for few days now. The ERROR is
>>>>>>> 401 Unauthorized answer when polling the NB REST API. This happens when
>>>>> controller does not start properly.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/CSIT-3node/job/openflowpl 
>>>>>>> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/CSIT-3node/job/openflowpl>
>>>>>>> ugin-csit-3node-clustering-only-boron
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/CSIT-3node/job/openflowp 
>>>>>>> <https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/CSIT-3node/job/openflowp>
>>>>>>> lugin-csit-3node-clustering-only-beryllium/_
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> BR/Luis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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