On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 6:04 AM Xiangyu Chen
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> Hi Bruce,
>
>
> Sorry for being late..
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>
> On 5/13/23 09:16, Bruce Ashfield wrote:
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> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 10:47 AM Bruce Ashfield via
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> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 10:23 PM Xiangyu Chen
> <xiangyu.c...@eng.windriver.com> wrote:
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> Hi Richard and Bruce,
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestion,
>
>
> On 5/11/23 00:25, Bruce Ashfield wrote:
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> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 12:16 PM Richard Purdie
> <richard.pur...@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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> On Mon, 2023-05-08 at 09:33 +0800, Xiangyu Chen wrote:
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> From: Xiangyu Chen <xiangyu.c...@windriver.com>
>
> after enable the kernel CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_BTF in devshell, the make would 
> report some
> errors due to pahole and elfuitls is missing, since this is a debug option, 
> so conditionally
> add an option named "btf" in KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTIONS, if someone need enable 
> CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_BTF
> option in devshell, they can add KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTIONS += "btf" in local.conf 
> to solve the pahole
> and elfutils dependency.
>
> Is this a defined workflow somewhere? Is KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTIONS with this
> option documented somewhere?
>
> I also think the mention of devshell in the commit message is
> misleading, this issue happens regardless of how you enable the option.
> There are also other ways of enabling this than local.conf, you'd
> likely not want people doing that at the end of development.
>
> I'm curious on Bruce's opinion but to me this at the very least needs a
> commit message rewrite and I'd question whether the docs elsewhere
> would allow someone to discover this workflow anyway.
>
> I missed this entirely, thanks for replying to it, or I never would
> have noticed.
>
> This mechanism isn't appropriate for these dependencies. I only added
> it to work around pkgconfig issues (which we can more cleanly solve in
> newer kernels  (see what I've been doing with make-mod-scripts) .. so
> it can eventually be dropped).
>
> We are already enabling elfutils-native conditionally on a
> per-architecture basis (currently only x86-64).
>
> If we need it on more arches now, we should enable it in the version
> specific recipes, or actually, we have moved far enough into newer
> kernel's that it could be in the .inc now.
>
> This commit's background was some kernel debug options needs elfutils
> and pahole native package, since the issue happens on enabling kernel
> debug options and not all people needs it, so I conditionally add the
> dependency in KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTION.
>
> If possible we can enable it in .inc because newer kernel tools like btf
> are support using pkg-config to locate the libelf instead of finding it
> from /usr/ folder, so we can use elfutils-natvie instead of installing
> elfutils package on host PC.
>
> Similarly, we should enable the pahole-native dependency on a per-arch basis.
>
> As Richard mentioned, what's the reproducer to see the errors ? it
> must be more than devshell.
>
> Yes, this happens on devshell and normal world if some kernel debug
> options are enabled. We can reproduce this issue with following steps(I
> have found the issue with kernel 5.15):
>
> 1. enable kernel option CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL  CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO and
> CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_BTF
>
> 2. build the kernel image, the compiler would report missing libelf.h
> and gelf.h which contains in elfutils-native(this step not happens on
> x86-64 due to it has been enabled).
>
> 3. enable elfutils-native by manual, the kernel source code can be
> compiled successfully but failed in final step due to missing pahole.
>
>
> If you can follow up with the steps to reproduce, I can take on the
> refactoring and broader dependency cleanup question, since I can test
> the wider matrix at the same time.
>
> Thanks, my local setup might missing some corner case, this is another
> reason I enable those native packages limit in KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTION :).
>
> I've been thinking about this, and I've come to the following suggestion:
>
> I plan on moving the elfutils-native to linux-yocto.inc, out of the
> version specific
> recipes.  I'll also drop the architecture specific nature of the
> current DEPENDS.
> The need for this is much more common now, and all of the reference kernels
> in master are new enough. The elfutils-native build dependency is not
> significant
> enough to worry about adding it for all architectures. If it does
> become a problem,
> there are options to make it conditional again.
>
> I can drop the HOST_LIBELF_LIBS work around in the linux-yocto.inc, as
> we can now properly detect libelf via pkg-config. I didn't need it in any of
> my testing. Again, if this proves to be wrong, I'd enable it in a
> different way now
> (using what I've learned from fixing make-mod-scripts).
>
> As for the pahole-native dependency, there's been a "developer" kernel-type
> for quite some time. The design intention behind it was to enable options like
> this, and not make the "standard" or "production" kernel's too large by 
> default.
> So the dependency could be conditional on that kernel type ... but we don't
> want to break other kernels just because they've enabled that option. We also
> don't (and won't) get into the game of looking for individual options in the
> .config to enable something, since a) it is too late b) it is a moving target.
>
> So that leaves the following options: a) enable pahole-native unconditionally
> on the arches that support it (x86-64, aarch64) (and also move the pahole
> recipe into oe-core) b) make the KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTIONS less specific,
> and simply call it KERNEL_DEBUG, when enabled, we could conditionally
> add pahole-native (I'd also submit documentation for the functionality
> c) something I haven't thought about ...
>
> I'm moving on the implementation now, but will adjust course if
> there's something
> I've missed.
>
> I have my implementation done, but I'm wondering what your configuration
> was for testing pahole ?
>

My reply will be hard to read, as plain text reply to the html doesn't
give us proper
context indenting.

> I have tested on a devshell, with oe-master branch, the kernel version using 
> 5.15
>
> 1. enable pahole-native and elfutils-native in linux-yocto.inc as a 
> dependency.
>
> 2. enable CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL  CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO and
> CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_BTF under menuconfig
>
> 3. using "export PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR=""" cleanning PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR
>
> 4, make
>
>
> If the test environment using bitbake, then we need to remove PAHOLE=false 
> flag in kernel EXTRA_OEMAKE in classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass, otherwise, 
> bitbake would report missing pahole error.
>

That's the same as my patch series (I've also changed PAHOLE=false to
a conditional in my series).

>
> I'm seeing the following in qemux86-64 at the end of the build:
>
> | Unsupported DW_TAG_unspecified_type(0x3b)
> | Encountered error while encoding BTF.
> |   LD      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms1
> |   NM      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms1.syms
> |   KSYMS   .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms1.S
> |   AS      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms1.S
> |   LD      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms2
> |   NM      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms2.syms
> |   KSYMS   .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms2.S
> |   AS      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms2.S
> |   LD      vmlinux
> |   BTFIDS  vmlinux
> | FAILED: load BTF from vmlinux: No such file or directory
> | make[1]: *** 
> [/opt/poky/build/tmp/work-shared/qemux86-64/kernel-source/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux:34:
> vmlinux] Error 255
> | make[1]: *** Deleting file 'vmlinux'
> | make: *** 
> [/opt/poky/build/tmp/work-shared/qemux86-64/kernel-source/Makefile:1255:
> vmlinux] Error 2
>
> I haven't looked into it at all yet (but will do so over the weekend)
> .. but I thought
>
> I haven't seen this problem yet(i'll pull the latest oe-core and meta-oe code 
> and try again), if possible, could you share a patch with me so that we can 
> test it together? thanks.
>

I'm on oe-core master, with qemux86-64.

I'll do a bit more work on the patch today, and can share it if I
can't figure out where that unsupported tag is coming from.

Bruce

> I should check with you first to get the details on how you were testing 
> pahole
> functionality.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> Br,
>
> Xiangyu
>
> Bruce
>
>
> Xiangyu
>
> Bruce
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
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