On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 10:47 AM Bruce Ashfield via
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<bruce.ashfield=gmail....@lists.openembedded.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 10:23 PM Xiangyu Chen
> <xiangyu.c...@eng.windriver.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Richard and Bruce,
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestion,
> >
> >
> > On 5/11/23 00:25, Bruce Ashfield wrote:
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> > > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 12:16 PM Richard Purdie
> > > <richard.pur...@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 2023-05-08 at 09:33 +0800, Xiangyu Chen wrote:
> > >>> From: Xiangyu Chen <xiangyu.c...@windriver.com>
> > >>>
> > >>> after enable the kernel CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_BTF in devshell, the make 
> > >>> would report some
> > >>> errors due to pahole and elfuitls is missing, since this is a debug 
> > >>> option, so conditionally
> > >>> add an option named "btf" in KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTIONS, if someone need 
> > >>> enable CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_BTF
> > >>> option in devshell, they can add KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTIONS += "btf" in 
> > >>> local.conf to solve the pahole
> > >>> and elfutils dependency.
> > >> Is this a defined workflow somewhere? Is KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTIONS with this
> > >> option documented somewhere?
> > >>
> > >> I also think the mention of devshell in the commit message is
> > >> misleading, this issue happens regardless of how you enable the option.
> > >> There are also other ways of enabling this than local.conf, you'd
> > >> likely not want people doing that at the end of development.
> > >>
> > >> I'm curious on Bruce's opinion but to me this at the very least needs a
> > >> commit message rewrite and I'd question whether the docs elsewhere
> > >> would allow someone to discover this workflow anyway.
> > > I missed this entirely, thanks for replying to it, or I never would
> > > have noticed.
> > >
> > > This mechanism isn't appropriate for these dependencies. I only added
> > > it to work around pkgconfig issues (which we can more cleanly solve in
> > > newer kernels  (see what I've been doing with make-mod-scripts) .. so
> > > it can eventually be dropped).
> > >
> > > We are already enabling elfutils-native conditionally on a
> > > per-architecture basis (currently only x86-64).
> > >
> > > If we need it on more arches now, we should enable it in the version
> > > specific recipes, or actually, we have moved far enough into newer
> > > kernel's that it could be in the .inc now.
> > This commit's background was some kernel debug options needs elfutils
> > and pahole native package, since the issue happens on enabling kernel
> > debug options and not all people needs it, so I conditionally add the
> > dependency in KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTION.
> >
> > If possible we can enable it in .inc because newer kernel tools like btf
> > are support using pkg-config to locate the libelf instead of finding it
> > from /usr/ folder, so we can use elfutils-natvie instead of installing
> > elfutils package on host PC.
> >
> > >
> > > Similarly, we should enable the pahole-native dependency on a per-arch 
> > > basis.
> > >
> > > As Richard mentioned, what's the reproducer to see the errors ? it
> > > must be more than devshell.
> >
> > Yes, this happens on devshell and normal world if some kernel debug
> > options are enabled. We can reproduce this issue with following steps(I
> > have found the issue with kernel 5.15):
> >
> > 1. enable kernel option CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL  CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO and
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_BTF
> >
> > 2. build the kernel image, the compiler would report missing libelf.h
> > and gelf.h which contains in elfutils-native(this step not happens on
> > x86-64 due to it has been enabled).
> >
> > 3. enable elfutils-native by manual, the kernel source code can be
> > compiled successfully but failed in final step due to missing pahole.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > If you can follow up with the steps to reproduce, I can take on the
> > > refactoring and broader dependency cleanup question, since I can test
> > > the wider matrix at the same time.
> >
> > Thanks, my local setup might missing some corner case, this is another
> > reason I enable those native packages limit in KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTION :).
> >
>
> I've been thinking about this, and I've come to the following suggestion:
>
> I plan on moving the elfutils-native to linux-yocto.inc, out of the
> version specific
> recipes.  I'll also drop the architecture specific nature of the
> current DEPENDS.
> The need for this is much more common now, and all of the reference kernels
> in master are new enough. The elfutils-native build dependency is not
> significant
> enough to worry about adding it for all architectures. If it does
> become a problem,
> there are options to make it conditional again.
>
> I can drop the HOST_LIBELF_LIBS work around in the linux-yocto.inc, as
> we can now properly detect libelf via pkg-config. I didn't need it in any of
> my testing. Again, if this proves to be wrong, I'd enable it in a
> different way now
> (using what I've learned from fixing make-mod-scripts).
>
> As for the pahole-native dependency, there's been a "developer" kernel-type
> for quite some time. The design intention behind it was to enable options like
> this, and not make the "standard" or "production" kernel's too large by 
> default.
> So the dependency could be conditional on that kernel type ... but we don't
> want to break other kernels just because they've enabled that option. We also
> don't (and won't) get into the game of looking for individual options in the
> .config to enable something, since a) it is too late b) it is a moving target.
>
> So that leaves the following options: a) enable pahole-native unconditionally
> on the arches that support it (x86-64, aarch64) (and also move the pahole
> recipe into oe-core) b) make the KERNEL_DEBUG_OPTIONS less specific,
> and simply call it KERNEL_DEBUG, when enabled, we could conditionally
> add pahole-native (I'd also submit documentation for the functionality
> c) something I haven't thought about ...
>
> I'm moving on the implementation now, but will adjust course if
> there's something
> I've missed.

I have my implementation done, but I'm wondering what your configuration
was for testing pahole ?

I'm seeing the following in qemux86-64 at the end of the build:

| Unsupported DW_TAG_unspecified_type(0x3b)
| Encountered error while encoding BTF.
|   LD      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms1
|   NM      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms1.syms
|   KSYMS   .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms1.S
|   AS      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms1.S
|   LD      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms2
|   NM      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms2.syms
|   KSYMS   .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms2.S
|   AS      .tmp_vmlinux.kallsyms2.S
|   LD      vmlinux
|   BTFIDS  vmlinux
| FAILED: load BTF from vmlinux: No such file or directory
| make[1]: *** 
[/opt/poky/build/tmp/work-shared/qemux86-64/kernel-source/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux:34:
vmlinux] Error 255
| make[1]: *** Deleting file 'vmlinux'
| make: *** 
[/opt/poky/build/tmp/work-shared/qemux86-64/kernel-source/Makefile:1255:
vmlinux] Error 2

I haven't looked into it at all yet (but will do so over the weekend)
.. but I thought
I should check with you first to get the details on how you were testing pahole
functionality.

Bruce


>
> Bruce
>
>
> >
> > Xiangyu
> >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >> Cheers,
> > >>
> > >> Richard
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > - Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer, for chaos and madness await
> > > thee at its end
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>
> --
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>
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>


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