> As Laura described yes, as you described it no. > > Okular is not a file management system, you use git or whatever other tool for > that, keeping N old copies of the same file makes no sense. > > Cheers, > Albert
I agree with your decision and can implement Laura's idea. Could you please let me know how to contribute to this feature? I am not familiar with KDE policies. Thank you. Best, Wen <okular-devel-requ...@kde.org> 於 2024年7月24日 週三 下午5:07寫道： > Send Okular-devel mailing list submissions to > okular-devel@kde.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/okular-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > okular-devel-requ...@kde.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > okular-devel-ow...@kde.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Okular-devel digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Add autosave function to Okular (Albert Astals Cid) > 2. Re: Add possibility to adjust the font size for PDF form > filling (Albert Astals Cid) > 3. [okular] [Bug 490714] The program is not restored from a > saved session after another update. (Albert Astals Cid) > 4. Re: Add possibility to adjust the font size for PDF form > filling (Andy Sardina) > 5. [okular] [Bug 490714] The program is not restored from a > saved session after another update. (Adrian Carver) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 23:50:13 +0200 > From: Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org> > To: okular-devel@kde.org > Subject: Re: Add autosave function to Okular > Message-ID: <15943638.68RGZT8oEa@xps15> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > El dilluns, 22 de juliol del 2024, a les 7:28:12 (CEST), Wen Chang va > escriure: > > > Exactly, auto save is just not how desktop software generally works. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Albert > > > > Could we implement the backup method for Okular? > > As Laura described yes, as you described it no. > > Okular is not a file management system, you use git or whatever other tool > for > that, keeping N old copies of the same file makes no sense. > > Cheers, > Albert > > > > > Best, > > Wen > > <okular-devel-requ...@kde.org> 於 2024年7月18日 週四 下午7:00寫道： > > > > > Send Okular-devel mailing list submissions to > > > > > > okular-devel@kde.org > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/okular-devel > > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > > > okular-devel-requ...@kde.org > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > > > okular-devel-ow...@kde.org > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of Okular-devel digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > 1. [okular] [Bug 490337] Allow to get PDF passwords from a > > > > > > org.freedesktop.secrets service (yan12125) > > > > > > 2. [okular] [Bug 490337] Allow to get PDF passwords from a > > > > > > org.freedesktop.secrets service (Albert Astals Cid) > > > > > > 3. Re: Add autosave function to Okular (Albert Astals Cid) > > > 4. Re: Add autosave function to Okular (Wen Chang) > > > 5. [okular] [Bug 490435] New: printing from the selected range > > > > > > of pages does not work correctly (Nazar) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 13:59:53 +0000 > > > From: yan12125 <bugzilla_nore...@kde.org> > > > To: okular-devel@kde.org > > > Subject: [okular] [Bug 490337] Allow to get PDF passwords from a > > > > > > org.freedesktop.secrets service > > > > > > Message-ID: <bug-490337-85596-igpgcqe...@http.bugs.kde.org/> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490337 > > > > > > --- Comment #2 from yan12125 <yu3actxt2tttf...@chyen.cc> --- > > > Ah, I forgot the main point: I use neither KDE nor kwalletd. Instead, I > > > use > > > KeePassXC as a cross-platform solution to manage all my secrets. That > > > program > > > also provides org.freedesktop.secrets service like kwalletd. If Okular > > > supports > > > org.freedesktop.secrets, I can just use KeePassXC instead of setting up > > > another > > > secrets service for PDF passwords. > > > > > > -- > > > You are receiving this mail because: > > > You are the assignee for the bug. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 20:19:56 +0000 > > > From: "Albert Astals Cid" <bugzilla_nore...@kde.org> > > > To: okular-devel@kde.org > > > Subject: [okular] [Bug 490337] Allow to get PDF passwords from a > > > > > > org.freedesktop.secrets service > > > > > > Message-ID: <bug-490337-85596-yncrj0q...@http.bugs.kde.org/> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490337 > > > > > > --- Comment #3 from Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org> --- > > > Ok, i guess that makes some sense, I wouldnt' be against such feature. > > > > > > -- > > > You are receiving this mail because: > > > You are the assignee for the bug. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 23:22:41 +0200 > > > From: Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org> > > > To: okular-devel@kde.org > > > Subject: Re: Add autosave function to Okular > > > Message-ID: <2416547.6LXrqp22Eu@xps15> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > El dimecres, 17 de juliol del 2024, a les 7:26:20 (CEST), Laura David > > > Hurka va > > > > > > escriure: > > > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 11:01:53 +0800 Wen Chang wrote: > > > > > I can do it that way by saving the changes in a backup file. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know why modifying the file on disk without user > > > > > interaction is a bad idea based on your experience. > > > > > > > > > > Also, I noticed that VSCode automatically saves changes once they > are > > > > > made. > > > > > To my knowledge, only the file that the user is working on will be > > > > > modified. > > > > > > > > > > What drawbacks would there be if a file is directly modified > without > > > > > > user > > > > > > > > interaction? > > > > > > > > Drawback would be that it is unusual and unexpected for many users > > > > > > (unless > > > > > > > the user explicitly configured it that way). > > > > > > > > Imagine you have a form that you need to fill out often, and then > just > > > > > > print > > > > > > > once. > > > > If changes are saved automatically, you can’t use the file the next > time > > > > anymore, because it is already filled. > > > > > > > > It would also not make much sense with “Open...”, “Save”, and “Save > > > > > > As...”. > > > > > > Exactly, auto save is just not how desktop software generally works. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Albert > > > > > > > Laura > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 11:28:31 +0800 > > > From: Wen Chang <changyaowen19980...@gmail.com> > > > To: okular-devel@kde.org > > > Subject: Re: Add autosave function to Okular > > > > > > Message-ID: > > > < > > > > > > cakpy6qvptjeynft6v_qb0pb1tjepkue8gprohn-mrgxez_r...@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > That's indeed the concern of the autosave method. > > > Thanks for letting me know. > > > > > > About your concern, I provide my suggestion as follows: > > > > Drawback would be that it is unusual and unexpected for many users > > > > > > (unless the > > > > > > > user explicitly configured it that way). > > > > > > The autosave function is disabled by default. Once the user clicks the > > > button to turn it on, changes will be saved automatically. This ensures > > > that users are aware they are in autosave mode. Additionally, autosave > > > will > > > remain enabled the next time the user opens Okular. > > > > > > Does implementing the method this way make more sense? Feel free to > let me > > > know. > > > > > > > If changes are saved automatically, you can’t use the file the next > time > > > > anymore, because it is already filled. > > > > > > In this situation, I suggest saving a backup file whenever the user > closes > > > Okular. This would create a list of backup files in a folder located in > > > the > > > same directory as the document. Users would then be able to roll back > by > > > checking different versions of the backup files. > > > > > > To my understanding, the current policy in Okular does not allow users > to > > > revert to the original version of a file once they have saved it > manually, > > > right? Please correct me if I am mistaken. Thanks. > > > > > > Best, > > > Wen > > > <okular-devel-requ...@kde.org> 於 2024年7月17日 週三 下午7:00寫道： > > > > > > > Send Okular-devel mailing list submissions to > > > > > > > > okular-devel@kde.org > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > > > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/okular-devel > > > > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > > > > > okular-devel-requ...@kde.org > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > > > > > okular-devel-ow...@kde.org > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > > than "Re: Contents of Okular-devel digest..." > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Add autosave function to Okular (Laura David Hurka) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 07:26:20 +0200 > > > > From: Laura David Hurka <laura.st...@mailbox.org> > > > > To: okular-devel@kde.org > > > > Subject: Re: Add autosave function to Okular > > > > Message-ID: <6009722.DvuYhMxLoT@doro> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 11:01:53 +0800 Wen Chang wrote: > > > > > I can do it that way by saving the changes in a backup file. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know why modifying the file on disk without user > > > > > interaction is a bad idea based on your experience. > > > > > > > > > > Also, I noticed that VSCode automatically saves changes once they > are > > > > > > > > made. > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, only the file that the user is working on will be > > > > > > > > modified. > > > > > > > > > What drawbacks would there be if a file is directly modified > without > > > > > > user > > > > > > > > interaction? > > > > > > > > Drawback would be that it is unusual and unexpected for many users > > > > > > (unless > > > > > > > the > > > > user explicitly configured it that way). > > > > > > > > Imagine you have a form that you need to fill out often, and then > just > > > > print > > > > once. > > > > If changes are saved automatically, you can’t use the file the next > time > > > > anymore, because it is already filled. > > > > > > > > It would also not make much sense with “Open...”, “Save”, and “Save > > > > > > As...”. > > > > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Okular-devel mailing list > > > > Okular-devel@kde.org > > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/okular-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > End of Okular-devel Digest, Vol 214, Issue 22 > > > > ********************************************* > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: < > > > > http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/okular-devel/attachments/20240718/0caf1ab8/a > > > ttachment-0001.htm > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 5 > > > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 07:21:26 +0000 > > > From: Nazar <bugzilla_nore...@kde.org> > > > To: okular-devel@kde.org > > > Subject: [okular] [Bug 490435] New: printing from the selected range > > > > > > of pages does not work correctly > > > > > > Message-ID: <bug-490435-85...@http.bugs.kde.org/> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490435 > > > > > > Bug ID: 490435 > > > > > > Summary: printing from the selected range of pages does not > > > > > > work correctly > > > > > > Classification: Applications > > > > > > Product: okular > > > Version: 23.08.1 > > > > > > Platform: Microsoft Windows > > > > > > OS: Other > > > > > > Status: REPORTED > > > > > > Severity: normal > > > Priority: NOR > > > > > > Component: printing > > > > > > Assignee: okular-devel@kde.org > > > Reporter: nazar2...@gmail.com > > > > > > Target Milestone: --- > > > > > > SUMMARY > > > printing from the selected range of pages does not work correctly > > > > > > STEPS TO REPRODUCE > > > 1. File > > > 2. Printing > > > 3. Pages: page range 1,3,5 > > > 4. Button - Print > > > > > > OBSERVED RESULT > > > prints only the currently displayed page, rather than the selected page > > > range > > > > > > EXPECTED RESULT > > > > > > > > > SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS > > > Windows: Windows 11 Home > > > macOS: > > > Linux/KDE Plasma: > > > (available in About System) > > > KDE Plasma Version: > > > KDE Frameworks Version: 5.109.0 > > > Qt Version: 5.15.10 > > > > > > ADDITIONAL INFORMATION > > > > > > -- > > > You are receiving this mail because: > > > You are the assignee for the bug. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Okular-devel mailing list > > > Okular-devel@kde.org > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/okular-devel > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > End of Okular-devel Digest, Vol 214, Issue 23 > > > ********************************************* > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 00:11:23 +0200 > From: Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org> > To: Okular development <okular-devel@kde.org> > Subject: Re: Add possibility to adjust the font size for PDF form > filling > Message-ID: <23268509.iS4c0tQboZ@xps15> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > El dimarts, 23 de juliol del 2024, a les 12:46:59 (CEST), Andy Sardina va > escriure: > > Hi, > > > > I have used Okular recently to fill a PDF form and I haven't found a > way > > (in the UI) to adjust the font size for text fields. This is a problem > > because for some text fields, specially the ones where one has to write > an > > address, even if the text fits perfectly in the Okular::FormLineEdit, > when > > it gets rendered, the text could be cut. > > > > For example: > > > > [image: form-show.png] > > > > but when the form is hidden: > > > > [image: form-hidden.png] > > > > The problem seems to be that the font (and font size) for the > > Okular::FormLineEdit is different from the one in the Default Appearance > > (DA) in the PDF. > > > > My proposal is to take advantage of the method > > Poppler::FormFieldText::setTextFontSize to adjust the font size in > > the PopplerFormFieldText (Poppler Generator). > > > > Ideally, Poppler::FormFieldText could have a member function that > returns a > > pointer (to avoid duplicating the same object if many text files share > the > > same font) to > > the font defined in the DA (implies changes in Poppler itself). This font > > can then be used on the constructor of Okular::FormLineEdit to "sync" > both > > fonts. > > > > What do you think? Is this a change that could be accepted? > > Setting the font & font size is possibly a valid feature, we do that > already > for annotations so i don't see why we would not do it for Forms. > > What you suggest of sharing pointers between poppler and okular, that's > possibly a bad idea. > > Cheers, > Albert > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 22:14:38 +0000 > From: "Albert Astals Cid" <bugzilla_nore...@kde.org> > To: okular-devel@kde.org > Subject: [okular] [Bug 490714] The program is not restored from a > saved session after another update. > Message-ID: <bug-490714-85596-amycnga...@http.bugs.kde.org/> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490714 > > Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org> changed: > > What |Removed |Added > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Severity|major |normal > CC| |aa...@kde.org > > --- Comment #1 from Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org> --- > It is also tiresome that you decided your report important is "major" > instead > of "normal", it's not. > > I don't even know what you are reporting. > > Are you reporting that saving a session doesn't work? That would be a > Plasma > bug, not an Okular bug. > > Are you wishing Okular had its own session concept? That's not even a bug, > that'd be a wish. > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You are the assignee for the bug. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 10:35:05 +0300 > From: Andy Sardina <andysardin...@gmail.com> > To: Okular development <okular-devel@kde.org> > Subject: Re: Add possibility to adjust the font size for PDF form > filling > Message-ID: > <CA+mZVhT-iJtQ0wDLFomCaxdGG= > 7ol40yfank6cwp8k-4o75...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Cool! > > I’ll work on a PR and avoid sharing pointers between the two levels. > > On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 at 1:11 AM Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org> wrote: > > > El dimarts, 23 de juliol del 2024, a les 12:46:59 (CEST), Andy Sardina va > > escriure: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have used Okular recently to fill a PDF form and I haven't found a > > way > > > (in the UI) to adjust the font size for text fields. This is a problem > > > because for some text fields, specially the ones where one has to write > > an > > > address, even if the text fits perfectly in the Okular::FormLineEdit, > > when > > > it gets rendered, the text could be cut. > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > [image: form-show.png] > > > > > > but when the form is hidden: > > > > > > [image: form-hidden.png] > > > > > > The problem seems to be that the font (and font size) for the > > > Okular::FormLineEdit is different from the one in the Default > Appearance > > > (DA) in the PDF. > > > > > > My proposal is to take advantage of the method > > > Poppler::FormFieldText::setTextFontSize to adjust the font size in > > > the PopplerFormFieldText (Poppler Generator). > > > > > > Ideally, Poppler::FormFieldText could have a member function that > > returns a > > > pointer (to avoid duplicating the same object if many text files share > > the > > > same font) to > > > the font defined in the DA (implies changes in Poppler itself). This > font > > > can then be used on the constructor of Okular::FormLineEdit to "sync" > > both > > > fonts. > > > > > > What do you think? Is this a change that could be accepted? > > > > Setting the font & font size is possibly a valid feature, we do that > > already > > for annotations so i don't see why we would not do it for Forms. > > > > What you suggest of sharing pointers between poppler and okular, that's > > possibly a bad idea. > > > > Cheers, > > Albert > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/okular-devel/attachments/20240724/ae3724b6/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 09:06:56 +0000 > From: "Adrian Carver" <bugzilla_nore...@kde.org> > To: okular-devel@kde.org > Subject: [okular] [Bug 490714] The program is not restored from a > saved session after another update. > Message-ID: <bug-490714-85596-5hemal5...@http.bugs.kde.org/> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490714 > > --- Comment #2 from Adrian Carver <adrian.car...@yandex.ru> --- > (In reply to Albert Astals Cid from comment #1) > > Albert, if you don't understand something, you can always ask clarifying > questions to the authors of the two “brilliant” ideas: the one who decided > that > the idea of redirecting a KDE user to the project's internal bug tracker > with > mandatory registration there was a very good idea. The second person who > can > explain to you what's going on is the one who, after the first one, > decided not > to create a sane registration form with a short introductory FAQ on how to > use > this bug tracker, sincerely hoping in his heart that an ordinary user > wouldn't > register here. > > I wouldn't, if I hadn't once again started to be annoyed by the non-obvious > behavior of the system and its separate component - ocular. I clicked on > the > “Report a bug...” menu and wrote it down as best I could. Where to > redistribute > it - to bugs, non-critical bugs, wishes...in general, this is the job of > “moderator”, I assume yours. To me, this kind of behavior is critical in > use. > Well, no one has explicitly familiarized me with what the statuses in your > tracker mean. > > At the same time, you can start a couple of tasks to finalize the > registration > form on the basis of the above: the situation shows that it will be useful. > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You are the assignee for the bug. > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Okular-devel mailing list > Okular-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/okular-devel > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Okular-devel Digest, Vol 214, Issue 28 > ********************************************* >
