For sure - OIL Prices is one kind of fin instruments like other products
(CPOs, Nickel, Gold, etc) - it's not depend only on productions, buying
pressures as happens in real sectors - I mean that it's so different to
analyzings with S & D in classical economics term...

My point of view that sentiments plays much for OIL like other fin
instruments + prices could be raisings more, more in order to find,
achieve its target itself - eventhough S & D all of the two together is
raisen too in parallel movements

Happy Chuan,

Aria


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> If I am not wrong, oil-price (naturally) is lower before summer and
> going-up again before fall, in line with seasonal demand. It is a seesaw
> cycle (like Indonesian inflation). Speculations, geopolitics etc are
> factors affecting that natural cycle. Should we worry if the trend is
> breaking such as cycle then?
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> Just my 2 worries :)
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> --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 11:14 AM
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> Oil price is mainly driven by two kind of news, Fundamental and
> incidental. Fundamental issues are like Oil Reserve, production, USD
> valuation, off shore drilling plan (still banned by the US senate). The
> others are incidental issues like "Prez X says war against America", "Y
> militant rebels attack oil wells", "tanker Z has delayed transportation
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> I see most of the news about oil recently are incidental, which is
> fundamentally weak, in other words, can be reversed easily (with another
> incidental good news). The other thing is USD is well maintained since
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> I know, in the long run crude oil is still bullish but not at this pace.
> US economy is currently still weak so I guess the only reason why it's
> still lingering above $140 is only because of SPECULATION. And you know
> who did this. Yeah, those banks who get smacked down by credit crunch.
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> 2008/6/30 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>> DOW jatuh karena harga minyak naik.., jadi kalau minyak turun
>> harusnya DOW rebound.., begitu kah? sebab SEPINTAS saya melihat ada
>> tanda-tanda minyak akan koreksi (pls see attachment).
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>> Meskipun MACD baru saja goldencross & Candle membentuk pola bullish
>> engulfing dua bar sebelumnya, tapi saya juga melihat ada divergence
>> negative antara price dgn macd & volume..., mudah2an tarikan garis saya
>> cukup obyektif dan tdk dipengaruhi oleh harapan saya... he.he
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>> Salam,
>> JsxTrader
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>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:43:08
>> Subject: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
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>> DOW 27 Juni 06 tutup di 11,346.51,ada peluang untuk reversal (lihat
>> target MACD…kemungkinan pertama  di 11,346.21).. jika tidak mampu
>> reversal maka target berikut di 10,758.75
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>> Peluang penurunan DJIA meskipun terlihat masih ada namun peluang
>> penurunannya makin kecil. Support terdekat di 11,346.26 dan jika ini
>> tembus berpeluang ke 10,758.75, Semua indikator kecuali MACD Optimasi
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