pagi all
bearish?
buat org medan batak mandailing..
Ita baen ma kumpulan trader investor ngen halak ita
Potensi halak ita lumayan godang do di BEI
Karena saya liat market bisa bergerak dari hasil kongkow bandar n fund manager..
Ita pe bisa bikin market mempengaruhi market he..hee

Gabung yo...

jamal nasution
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Veter 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:13 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re:Bearish in mind? Well, the majority is USUALLY 
wrong..



  Bung DE,

  Tenang aja ini masih masa denial, ada yang bilang turun, ada yang bilang 
tetap naik, ada yang bilang Cuma sebentar...:), nanti kalo udah pada depresi 
baru sah bottomnya. Have a nice day



  Salam

  JV



  Bearish in mind? Well, the majority is USUALLY wrong.. 

  Posted by: "Dean Earwicker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   earwicker_dean 

  Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:32 am (PST) 

  Bearish in mind? Good. I like when everybody think of bearish, because
  majority is usually *wrong*. You know, most of smart players out there are
  good CONTRARIANS.

  Successful trader is the one who masters the *herding game.* Read the
  article below, and you'll understand what it's about. Read it real slow and
  carefully.
  *
  After you read the article below, get a piece of paper and a pencil, and
  write down THREE of the most HATED and LOVED stocks. Whatever you write,
  these stocks are supposed to be NOT ON YOUR PORTFOLIO.

  Why?

  Love and hate are personal and sentimental. When you get sentimental, you
  will be irrational. When you get irrational, you lose.

  So go ahead, read the article :)
  *
  Regards,
  DE

  http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wood/2003/1024.html

  *
  "The Majority is Usually Wrong"*

  At first it may be difficult to accept such a statement as fact. So let us
  pursue the subject a bit. Let us start by dividing the population of this
  planet into two groups, the minority and the majority.

  It would seem that only a minority of the people on this planet have the
  ability and ambition to study hard, to figure out ways to accumulate wealth,
  and to raise their standard of living. The majority are apparently unable or
  unwilling to acquire the knowledge and take the action which would enable
  them to do the same.

  Another difficulty of the majority is the herd instinct which they follow. The
  desire to go along with a large group is evident among people and animals. 
This
  is caused by the idea that there is safety in numbers - to think and act
  like the majority of other people. Anyone who dares to be different from the
  crowd is not considered to be "normal."

  One of the big troubles with modern society is the conformity of ideas and
  action. I call it the mediocrity of conformity. Many people are actually
  afraid to be different - to pursue unusual ideas. But the road to success is
  paved with unusual ideas, and traveled by unusual people who dare to be
  different. In our modern society it frequently pays to be unusual and
  different.

  Another trouble with the majority is that they have a tendency to believe
  what they are told, especially if something is repeated frequently. The
  majority find it is easier to accept the statements of others than to think
  for themselves.

  The minority, who do not believe what they are told, must put forth
  intensive effort in their search for truth and knowledge. Sometimes the
  quest for knowledge is like sailing on an uncharted sea with nothing to
  guide you except the facts you learn as you go along. The success of your
  voyage depends on how well you can separate facts from fantasy, how well you
  can analyze the facts you discover, and how well you use them to reach the
  right conclusions.

  In the stock market, the majority are inclined to believe what they are told
  in the form of tips, rumors and advice. The minority believe only what they
  know to be facts, and then reach their own conclusions by analyzing those
  facts.

  Still another weakness of the majority is their disbelief in change. Most
  people do not expect or prepare for changes in the status quo. They believe
  that things will continue indefinitely just as they are right now. When the
  stock market goes up, the majority expect it to continue going up
  indefinitely. They do not bother to think about the time when the market
  will change its course and turn downward.

  At the same time, the minority know that change is inevitable, and they are
  looking ahead, trying to figure how to tell when the market makes the
  change, and planning what actions they will take at that time. The minority
  know that every bull market has been followed by a bear market, and that
  every bear market had been followed by a bull market. The successful
  investor must possess a mind which is flexible enough to accept changing
  conditions.

  The majority of investors are almost paralyzed by their opinions, because it
  is difficult to change an opinion which is well established. When a person
  has a definite opinion, there is the danger that he might not be able to
  change it until too late to take the proper action.

  Almost everybody tries to form an opinion of the market. Many investors are
  constantly gathering information to help them form the correct opinion. As
  the opinion forms, the investor subconsciously becomes more receptive to the
  ideas, which help to substantiate his opinion.

  There are always plenty of arguments for both sides of a case. Since the
  equal acceptance of arguments from both sides would result in frustrating
  confusion, a person must choose which to accept. Frequently a person
  accepts the arguments which support his own opinion, and he ignores the
  opposite side of the case. It is human nature to do so. Many people
  actively consider and publicize only the arguments which will support their
  opinions. The process is called rationalization.

  The majority seem to have an uncanny ability to buy near the top of a bull
  market, and sell near the bottom of a bear market. Apparently that is the
  way things must be, otherwise who would the minority sell their stocks to
  near the top - and who would they buy stocks from near the bottom?

  One should try to think and act like the minority, for there is little hope
  for the success of the majority. There is not enough room at the top for the
  majority.

  Realizing that the majority is usually wrong in their action near the tops
  of bull markets and the bottoms of bear markets, I looked for ways to
  recognize majority action at those points I also looked for a way of timing
  the contrary action to be taken at those points. It would not be enough just
  to recognize when the majority was wrong. One must also recognize exactly
  when the majority was wrong enough to take the contrary action.

  The words above are not mine. This was a quote from *The Haller Theory of
  Stock Market Trends* 1965, by Gilbert Haller. Recently, I have been showing
  you a few charts on advancing volume and advancing issues. I referred to
  this as market fuel. Mr. Haller's work only recently became known to me by
  one of my old time technical friends. He suggested that I read Mr. Haller's
  book. What I found in this book served to reinforce what I have been
  sharing with you over the last few weeks about the lack of confirmation from
  upside volume and advancing issues. As it turns out, Mr. Haller's work was
  solidly based on the use of volume and advancing-declining issues. Mr.
  Haller used these indicators to show him when the market was under
  distribution as is now the case. My point here is that in spite of all the
  hype from mainstream and popular public opinion the underlying volume and
  advance-decline work is telling us something else and now does not appear to
  be a time to be in alignment with the majority. Given that Mr. Haller's
  work was based on what I have recently been presenting to you as "Market
  Fuel" plus the fact that I currently have a contrary opinion on the market I
  felt that the above quote was appropriate. I hope that you are able to find
  some value in it.




   

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