Sorry..
No heart feeling please..
I was rude before.
We make friends not enemy in capital market.
More friends more idea.
Cheers
334

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sharing infos in this milist is just like against a bunch of 
mob...who don't want to be criticised and could not accept someone's 
else opinion...
>   i would rather have a battle in the market....but, i know people 
like pak edy1276 and effendi ang..? hehe are very smart and have big 
investment...so.. my apology, then..
>   this is my last comment please consider all of my comment as 
disclaimer and ignore them...
>   promise and swear not to give any opnion anymore...
>   and my best respect to embah or mbah, pak oen, and pak 
vibby ...keep up a good work and remind people to always be wise in 
investing their money in the jungle world of the equity market....
>   peace and cheers to you all
>   bye
>   
> 
> edy1276 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>           nope....but i may be looking at heavily investing some 
big chunk of 
> > my fund....
> Tong Kosong Nyaring Bunyinya..
> not that funny....i stll have some at an average of 
> IDR35....so...take an easy...
> Menjilat ludah sendiri
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
> <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> >
> > not that funny....i stll have some at an average of 
> IDR35....so...take an easy...
> > hehe
> > 
> > up_trends <up_trends@> wrote:
> > funny when some people said this stock is good but 
> actually they 
> > still dont invest in it. if u are sure enough bumi is going to 
> 1200, 
> > why u still don't have bumi? :)
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
> > <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > nope....but i may be looking at heavily investing some big 
chunk 
> of 
> > my fund....
> > > and may forecast for BUMI fair value is more than 1,200 rups..
> > > 
> > > but, what u said reminded me to an event when i told people 
that 
> > Telkom's fair value is at 9,000 rups...at that times Telkom's 
share 
> > price was at 4,400....haha
> > > peace ah..
> > > 
> > > up_trends <up_trends@> wrote:
> > > I'm guessing u have bumi? well good luck :)
> > > 
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
> > > <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now is 
> > that 
> > > i don't understand with what you said...
> > > > peace
> > > > 
> > > > up_trends <up_trends@> wrote:
> > > > the problem is are u strong enough to see other stocks 
> > > rally giving u 
> > > > a whooping 20%+ gain while bumi ....... :)
> > > > 
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
> > > > <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > well...
> > > > > come on...be realistic... and please separate corporate 
> action 
> > > > and assets.... as of September 30 2006 (next 9-month 
earnings), 
> > > > BUMI's assets should remain at IDR16.99 trillion, compared 
with 
> > > PTBA 
> > > > of ONLY IDR2.68 trillion, or INCO of IDR15.23 trillion or 
ANTM 
> of 
> > > > IDR6.6 trillion.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If BUMI CAN manage its current debts by any kind of 
> refinancing 
> > > > or loan bridging or whatsoever....BUMI mabe as attractive as 
> > Inco...
> > > > > 
> > > > > The question for BUMI is how they can manage their cash 
> > > > flow...and maintain its loyal foreign buyers....
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, with or without selling KPC and ARUTMIN, which are the 
> > > > largest coal miner by ASSETS and reserves, BUMI still has 
> > potential 
> > > > for long term investment.
> > > > > 
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > 
> > > > > ariabela@ wrote:
> > > > > Sepertinya, pade kalah 'senior' semua sama yg punyanya, 
> > > > ya - nanti lama2
> > > > > juga akan terlupakan/terselesaikan dg sendirinya...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Aria
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Asetnya BUMI keliatannya masih menarik dhe.. ie :Arutmin, 
> KPC 
> > > > etc...
> > > > > > tapi manajemennya,,yakkhhhhhh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: up_trends
> > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, 
> > ketimpa 
> > > > sial
> > > > > > lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe kenyang.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jamal Nasution" 
> > <jamal@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > klo cp nya beli banyak berarti mo kesana
> > > > > > > tapi klo belinya cuma dikit berarti barang banyak 
nyangkut
> > > > > > > itu riset kapan? sesudah pembatalan KPC ya
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Handika Wisnu
> > > > > > > To: Bandar
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:43 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] masih layakkah BUMI?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Saya saat ini megang saham BUMI dalam jumlah yg lumayan 
> > banyak
> > > > > > (menurut saya) karena dulu terpikat dgn janji mo bagi 
> dividen 
> > Rp
> > > > > > 200/saham.
> > > > > > > Nah, yg mo saya tanyain...apakah BUMI masih layak 
> > > dipertahankan
> > > > > > ato tidak?
> > > > > > > Soalnya hasil dari cut loss ini akan saya alihkan untuk 
> > invest
> > > > > > options di US market yg return-nya rata2 10% per bulan 
> > (strategi
> > > > > > konservatif).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tapi barusan saya baca review BEJ dari pusat riset 
> Valbury 
> > > > bilang
> > > > > > klo BUMI msh pny masa depan yg bagus, keliatan dari 
> banyaknya 
> > > > bank2
> > > > > > luar negeri yg msh mo memberikan pinjaman hingga 2x yg 
> > diminta.
> > > > > > > Katanya ini menunjukkan bahwa BUMI msh dipercaya sama 
> > investor
> > > > > > luar.
> > > > > > > Plus target dlm 3 bulan bisa balik ke 950...dan jika 
> > dihitung
> > > > > > fair value based on asset dan Gordon growth model masih 
di 
> > > > Rp1100 -
> > > > > > Rp1200
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Minta sarannya donk bwt yg sudah senior...mesti diapain 
> ya 
> > > saham
> > > > > > ini?
> > > > > > > Soalnya siklus dari pasar options di US market tu tiap 
> akhir
> > > > > > October bakal ada major momentum. sayang bgt klo ! ampe 
> > kelewat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terimakasih banyak
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kutipan dari pusat riset Valbury :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Special Mention:
> > > > > > > BUMI: 690-810. Best buy below IDR690. The fact that it 
has
> > > > > > secured a foreign bank syndicated loan shows that
> > > > > > > foreign investors have still high confidence in BUMI's 
> > > future. 
> > > > If
> > > > > > everything goes on smoothly, BUMI may
> > > > > > > return to visit IDR950 within threee months. Fair value 
> > based 
> > > on
> > > > > > assets and Gordon growth methodology
> > > > > > > remains at IDR1,100-IDR1,200
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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