Sangat menarik...
Ngikutin Obrolan (Long Term) "Investor vs Trader" yg pengen ketemu
di BUMI.
Cheers
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "redyherinantoalb"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's not funny.... I konw someone still hold BUMI at avarage 30
> rupiah.... 50.000 lot..... I lost BUMI once, but with it's price
now
> I considering to take it as long term investment.... althoung it
> will break mu oath not to buy Bakries anymore... :D
>
> Redy
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "up_trends" <up_trends@>
> wrote:
> >
> > haha mr frederick u can be very funny sumtimes....
> > maybe Rp 35, or maybe Rp 990? or 1000? hihihi, i leave the
answer
> to
> > you. :)
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
> > <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > not that funny....i stll have some at an average of
> > IDR35....so...take an easy...
> > > hehe
> > >
> > > up_trends <up_trends@> wrote:
> > > funny when some people said this stock is good but
> > actually they
> > > still dont invest in it. if u are sure enough bumi is going to
> > 1200,
> > > why u still don't have bumi? :)
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
> > > <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > nope....but i may be looking at heavily investing some big
> chunk
> > of
> > > my fund....
> > > > and may forecast for BUMI fair value is more than 1,200
rups..
> > > >
> > > > but, what u said reminded me to an event when i told people
> that
> > > Telkom's fair value is at 9,000 rups...at that times Telkom's
> share
> > > price was at 4,400....haha
> > > > peace ah..
> > > >
> > > > up_trends <up_trends@> wrote:
> > > > I'm guessing u have bumi? well good luck :)
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
> > > > <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now
> is
> > > that
> > > > i don't understand with what you said...
> > > > > peace
> > > > >
> > > > > up_trends <up_trends@> wrote:
> > > > > the problem is are u strong enough to see other stocks
> > > > rally giving u
> > > > > a whooping 20%+ gain while bumi ....... :)
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
> > > > > <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > well...
> > > > > > come on...be realistic... and please separate corporate
> > action
> > > > > and assets.... as of September 30 2006 (next 9-month
> earnings),
> > > > > BUMI's assets should remain at IDR16.99 trillion, compared
> with
> > > > PTBA
> > > > > of ONLY IDR2.68 trillion, or INCO of IDR15.23 trillion or
> ANTM
> > of
> > > > > IDR6.6 trillion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If BUMI CAN manage its current debts by any kind of
> > refinancing
> > > > > or loan bridging or whatsoever....BUMI mabe as attractive
as
> > > Inco...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The question for BUMI is how they can manage their cash
> > > > > flow...and maintain its loyal foreign buyers....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, with or without selling KPC and ARUTMIN, which are
the
> > > > > largest coal miner by ASSETS and reserves, BUMI still has
> > > potential
> > > > > for long term investment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ariabela@ wrote:
> > > > > > Sepertinya, pade kalah 'senior' semua sama yg punyanya,
> > > > > ya - nanti lama2
> > > > > > juga akan terlupakan/terselesaikan dg sendirinya...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aria
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Asetnya BUMI keliatannya masih menarik dhe..
> ie :Arutmin,
> > KPC
> > > > > etc...
> > > > > > > tapi manajemennya,,yakkhhhhhh.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: up_trends
> > > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi,
> > > ketimpa
> > > > > sial
> > > > > > > lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe kenyang.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jamal
Nasution"
> > > <jamal@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > klo cp nya beli banyak berarti mo kesana
> > > > > > > > tapi klo belinya cuma dikit berarti barang banyak
> nyangkut
> > > > > > > > itu riset kapan? sesudah pembatalan KPC ya
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: Handika Wisnu
> > > > > > > > To: Bandar
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:43 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] masih layakkah BUMI?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Saya saat ini megang saham BUMI dalam jumlah yg
> lumayan
> > > banyak
> > > > > > > (menurut saya) karena dulu terpikat dgn janji mo bagi
> > dividen
> > > Rp
> > > > > > > 200/saham.
> > > > > > > > Nah, yg mo saya tanyain...apakah BUMI masih layak
> > > > dipertahankan
> > > > > > > ato tidak?
> > > > > > > > Soalnya hasil dari cut loss ini akan saya alihkan
> untuk
> > > invest
> > > > > > > options di US market yg return-nya rata2 10% per bulan
> > > (strategi
> > > > > > > konservatif).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tapi barusan saya baca review BEJ dari pusat riset
> > Valbury
> > > > > bilang
> > > > > > > klo BUMI msh pny masa depan yg bagus, keliatan dari
> > banyaknya
> > > > > bank2
> > > > > > > luar negeri yg msh mo memberikan pinjaman hingga 2x yg
> > > diminta.
> > > > > > > > Katanya ini menunjukkan bahwa BUMI msh dipercaya
sama
> > > investor
> > > > > > > luar.
> > > > > > > > Plus target dlm 3 bulan bisa balik ke 950...dan jika
> > > dihitung
> > > > > > > fair value based on asset dan Gordon growth model
masih
> di
> > > > > Rp1100 -
> > > > > > > Rp1200
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Minta sarannya donk bwt yg sudah senior...mesti
> diapain
> > ya
> > > > saham
> > > > > > > ini?
> > > > > > > > Soalnya siklus dari pasar options di US market tu
tiap
> > akhir
> > > > > > > October bakal ada major momentum. sayang bgt klo !
ampe
> > > kelewat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Terimakasih banyak
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kutipan dari pusat riset Valbury :
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Special Mention:
> > > > > > > > BUMI: 690-810. Best buy below IDR690. The fact that
it
> has
> > > > > > > secured a foreign bank syndicated loan shows that
> > > > > > > > foreign investors have still high confidence in
BUMI's
> > > > future.
> > > > > If
> > > > > > > everything goes on smoothly, BUMI may
> > > > > > > > return to visit IDR950 within threee months. Fair
> value
> > > based
> > > > on
> > > > > > > assets and Gordon growth methodology
> > > > > > > > remains at IDR1,100-IDR1,200
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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