enrg,bumi,. i tried to find the bottom but couldn't find it yet.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Soeratman Doerachman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pak Aria
>
> You are right
>
> Look at first the cycles. You only can apply buy high sell higher on the
> cycle 2.
>
> By high sell higher on cycle 3 or 4? It's suicide
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Aria Bela Nusa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:15 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: saham@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Pencerahan mr oentoeng,mbah dll
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> Pak Halim,
>
>
>
> Back to basic saja :
>
>
>
> * Ketahui dulu trend-nya (spot the trend & trend is your
friend) -->
> strategic
>
> * If could, try to find the bottom (easier) & topping formation
> (more difficult) --> tactical
>
> * Work it out your house-hold handlings : Know what happened
> surroundings now & then with your stock (+ your 'big pictures' of
index &
> sector/industry around) - step by step of evolutionary of market -->
actions
> steps/plans.
>
>
>
> Aria
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Thomas
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 6:44 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Pencerahan mr oentoeng,mbah dll
>
>
>
> Bung Halim,
>
>
>
> Mungkin lebih baik BUY dan CUAN, he3x, kalau
> bisa.!!!!......................, kenapa harus mempermasalahkan Buy
Low Sell
> High atau Buy High Sell Higher? padahal "katanya Dow" bahwa
"Price/Averages
> discount Everything", arti harga saham saat tersebut mereflesikan
espektasi
> buyer/seller kedepan, kecuali saham tersebut di Bandarin / Gorengan.
>
>
>
> Pengalaman saya buy Low jauh lebih sulit dan butuh pengalaman,
seolah-olah
> anda disuruh meramal bahwa saham tersebut pada titik tertentu akan naik
> (padahal belum tentu kan?), apa lagi di iming-imingi riset broker yg
banyak
> bullshit-nya atau lap keuangan masa lalu yg sudah direkayasa,
kecuali kita
> benar-benar menguasai analisa industrinya sampai prediksi keuangan
emiten
> dgn detail (seperti Pak Eka) dan sabar.
>
>
>
> Kebalikan dari diatas, buy high, adalah fakta bahwa orang-2 berani
beli saat
> new high/breakout+vol adalah suatu KENYATAAN bahwa saham tsb sedang
"diburu"
> orang dan NAIK. Jadi.gampang sekali mengikutinya, kita ikut arus "massa"
> aja, apalagi sekarang musim breakout, he3. Senjata anda tinggal Stop
loss
> (jika dikibuli) dan trailing stop (jaga profit). Dan jangan lupa
bila beli
> saat rally jangan "antre", nanti anda bisa-bisa dapat muntahan bandar.
>
>
>
> Salam sejahtera semuanya, Thomas
>
>
>
>
> Halim Mintareja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Buy High Sell Higher...
>
>
>
> banyak sih yang mengatakan seperti itu.. tapi apa benar seperti itu...
>
>
>
> Kalau sudah melihat apa yang terjadi sih sangat mudah bilang BUY
HIGH SELL
> HIGHER.
>
>
>
> Berdasarkan pengalaman saya di dunia valas..sangat tidak mungkin kita
> melakukan buy high sell higher untuk trading.. ngak sebanding
antara resiko
> profit dan loss.
>
>
>
> Logika saja... seberapa jauh anda masuk kategori BUY HIGH... 3%,
5%,.. atau
> 10%..
>
> Kalau sudah naik segitu.. apa masih ada sisa maximum gain dalam
waktu dekat
> ?? (mengingat tujuan dari BUY HIGH SELL HIGHER adalah untuk trading)
>
>
>
> Coba kita lihat yang baru terjadi .. MEDC dan ISAT....
>
> MEDC.. break resitant 3400.. SELL 3375...BUY ??? tidak sempat..
harga udah
> balik duluan.. rugi fee
> MEDC.. break 3400 ke 3450 dengan volume.. BUY di 3425 ?? SELL..
automatic
> cut loss di 3375 karena batas cut loss..
> ISAT.. BUY 4525.. SELL 4775.. GAIN 250...
>
>
>
> Memang kalau dihitung 1 Gain bisa tutupin 2 Loss.. tapi apa tutupin fee
> untuk trading ??
>
>
>
> Coba renungkan sendiri.... Kalau Index naik terus sih gampang bilang BUY
> HIGH SELL HIGHER.. tapi waktu sideways apa ada yang berani bilang
teorinya
> itu benar ??
>
>
>
> Saya sih lebih suka fundamental analis dengan minimal 3 bulan target.
>
> On 8/19/06, up_trends <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> com>
> wrote:
>
> semua org punya style sendiri. malah saya bilang buy low sell higher
> rada risky ,, but profitnya juga tinggi. ini diperuntukan org yg
> benar benar tahu fundamental & perbandaran yg ada. mbah&mr oentoeng
> salah satu ahlinya.(mungkin ada yg lain). asal yg newbie jgn buy low,
> sell lower aja yah :)
>
> kalo buy high sell higher lebih gampang dikit menurut saya. saya
> belajar dr mr Busur&darvas(trend follower). asal ada cut loss pt aja.
> tetep aman.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ <mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "beagle boyz"
>
>
> <thebeagleboyz@> wrote:
> >
> > untuk beberapa orang, memang ada yang ahli untuk buy high sell higher.
> > tapi saya masih belajar trading, jadi buy low sell high aja.
> >
> > saya sendiri belum bisa buy high sell higher, masih dipelajari.
> > yang ada sih kejadian buy high sell low.
> >
> > salam
> >
> >
>
> > On 8/19/06, boy <m4573rs@> wrote:
> > >
> > > menurut DARVAS adalah bukan membeli saham dengan harga murah lalu
> > > menjual dengan harga mahal.
> > > tetapi "BUY a HIGH and SELL HIGHER"
> > >
> > > saya kutip :
> > > "As I flew around the world, I was constantly searching for stocks
> that
> > > would climb into the stratosphere because of the vision of their
> future.
> > > This attitude was a preparation for what I suppose you could call
> > > high-territory trading. I looked for stocks that I thought could
make
> > > new highs and I decided to give them my full attention when they
had
> > > climbed on to the launching pad and were preparing to rocket up. Now
> > > these stocks would be more expensive than ever before and so they
> would
> > > look too dear to the uninitiated. But they could become dearer.
I made
> > > up my mind to buy high and sell higher."
> > >
> > > beagle boyz wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > sebaiknya pikirkan prinsip dasar dulu.
> > > > beli murah, jual mahal. gampang toh.
> > > > masalahnya adalah, semurah apa anda belinya. dan semahal apa
> anda mau
> > > jual.
> > > >
> > > > kalau menurut saya, selama anda *tahu (FA) *apa yang anda beli,
> > > > tidak usah takut untuk beli kalau harga lagi turun.
> > > > tentunya jangan lupa *hardstop.*
> > > >
> > > > salam.
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
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