Thanks, this looks like a good and reasonable conclusion.

Allowing for extensions is okay. Adding X.509 support, and this isn't exactly a backwards compatibility or bridging kind of feature, as an OAuth WG document would not be appropriate.

Vladimir Dzhuvinov

On 27/02/2025 17:41, Christian Bormann wrote:

Hi all,

We had a session on this topic in the OAuth Security Workshop

(with Brian, Filip and Mike present) and asked for feedback.

Everyone that voiced their opinion was against this extension in the scope of the current

draft and the OAuth Working Group, but there was the remark to make sure that this draft

allows for this feature if people wish to create this extension (as Filip also stated previously

here on the mailing list).

Slides we used with short notes on the Feedback we got:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1NGYsJgwGOBDRbop9OLAbj6_0Aoo3FhAyabu-aE4ghyk/edit#slide=id.g33a15d709f8_0_331

Best Regards,

Christian

*From: *Michael Jones <michael_b_jo...@hotmail.com>
*Date: *Wednesday, 26. February 2025 at 18:05
*To: *Brian Campbell <bcampb...@pingidentity.com>, Filip Skokan <panva...@gmail.com>
*Cc: *Christian Bormann <chris.borm...@gmx.de>, oauth <oauth@ietf.org>
*Subject: *RE: [OAUTH-WG] Re: Status List Feature Request

X.509 already has its own revocation infrastructure (in fact, more than one kind!).  We needn’t complicate this spec to add another one for X.509.

-- Mike

*From:*Brian Campbell <bcampbell=40pingidentity....@dmarc.ietf.org>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2025 4:46 PM
*To:* Filip Skokan <panva...@gmail.com>
*Cc:* Christian Bormann <chris.bormann=40gmx...@dmarc.ietf.org>; oauth <oauth@ietf.org>
*Subject:* [OAUTH-WG] Re: Status List Feature Request

I concur with Filip's perspective.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2025, 4:21 PM Filip Skokan <panva...@gmail.com <mailto:panva...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    I believe it is inappropriate and wildly out of scope for an oauth
    document to define X.509 extensions, which IIUC is needed in order
    to define the Status Claim for X.509? The important thing to make
    sure is that the document does not preclude a future X.509
    extension being drafted (wherever its appropriate place may be)
    that makes use of the status list, and that already appears to be
    the case.

    S pozdravem,
    *Filip Skokan*

    On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 at 14:57, Christian Bormann
    <chris.bormann=40gmx...@dmarc.ietf.org
    <mailto:40gmx...@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:

        Hi all,

        While going through the feedback and issues on github, there
        was one bigger discussion point that we would like to bring to
        the mailing list. Steffen Schwalm asked for support for X.509
        Certificate revocation with the Status List - in that case the
        Status List describing the status of an X.509 Certificate
        (relevant issue
        https://github.com/oauth-wg/draft-ietf-oauth-status-list/issues/243
        <https://github.com/oauth-wg/draft-ietf-oauth-status-list/issues/243>).
        That would mean defining an extension to X.509 to embed the
        relevant information for a Status List (URI and index) and
        creating validation rules etc.

        While we understand the general motivation as is discussed in
        more detail in the issue, it would be somewhat of a change of
        scope for the Status List draft. We felt it might be out of
        scope of the OAuth Working Group and rather in scope of other
        working groups like lamps? Any comments/opinions would be
        appreciated!

        Best Regards,

        Christian Bormann

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