> On Sep 17, 2024, at 1:58 PM, Vladimir Dzhuvinov <vladi...@connect2id.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I frankly don't see how the central premise of PIKA - the reliance on a TLS 
> web domain certificate - can be made to work in practice.
> 
> 
> 
> Reasons: Infrastructure in the real world, mixing of concerns, conflict with 
> CA policies and CAB Forum requirements, NIST etc guidance compliance issues.
> 
I agree with Vladimir unfortunately.

A certificate is a bundle of restrictions, but the two most critical are on 
subject name and purpose. This reuses a certificate meant to secure network 
traffic with a particular DNS name to one securing arbitrary application 
messages from a particular origin.

This would not only break a lot of organizational security policies (and 
potentially conflict with how they deploy their network infrastructure), but 
ignores CA policy that is baked into the TLS certificate.

-DW
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