On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 3:22 PM Dick Hardt <dick.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 4:07 PM Sam Goto <goto=40google....@dmarc.ietf.org>
> wrote:
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>> That's easier to answer: the browser needs name/email/picture to
>> construct an account chooser
>> <https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1iURrPakaHgBfQ6mAefKijjxToiTTgBSPz1rtaV0od98/edit#slide=id.p>,
>> which is the UX that tested best with users by a far margin.
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> I bring up again the issue I filed
> https://github.com/fedidcg/FedCM/issues/242
>

Yeah, that's a known issue. We actively are working on a subset of this
problem here:

https://github.com/fedidcg/FedCM/issues/559


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> Registration and login are conflated in OIDC. showing the
> name/email/picture implies those will be shared. That is commonly what
> happens when using Google -- but other IdP's might have those attributes,
> and it may not be what an RP needs, breaking the Law of Identity about
> minimal disclosure.
>
> The FedCM architecture works well to solve the 3P cookie deprecation for
> fancy Google login flow -- but standardizing that as how all login works
> normalizes that email, name, and picture will always be shared -- not a
> goal I think many of us are aligned on.
>

Yeah, no disagreement from my side that that's a non-goal, and not part of
the end state. Purely sequencing strategy based on practicalities, from
where I stand.

As I said, I think the following will go a long way in making email/picture
optional/unnecessary.

https://github.com/fedidcg/FedCM/issues/559
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