+1, this seems a better fit for openid.

 — Justin

> On Apr 6, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Brian Campbell <bcampb...@pingidentity.com> wrote:
> 
> OpenID ... ? 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Anthony Nadalin <tony...@microsoft.com 
> <mailto:tony...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
> Good question, since SCIM does not really provide an authorization model and 
> Oauth does not do provisioning this is sort of caught in the middle, so if I 
> had to pick I would pick Oauth as this is a generic server to server issue
> 
>   <>
> From: Hardt, Dick [mailto:d...@amazon.com <mailto:d...@amazon.com>] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:52 AM
> To: Anthony Nadalin <tony...@microsoft.com <mailto:tony...@microsoft.com>>
> Cc: Gil Kirkpatrick <gil.kirkpatr...@viewds.com 
> <mailto:gil.kirkpatr...@viewds.com>>; Nat Sakimura <n-sakim...@nri.co.jp 
> <mailto:n-sakim...@nri.co.jp>>; Phil Hunt (IDM) <phil.h...@oracle.com 
> <mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com>>; s...@ietf.org <mailto:s...@ietf.org>; 
> oauth@ietf.org <mailto:oauth@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [scim] [OAUTH-WG] Simple Federation Deployment
> 
>  
> 
> Sounds like there is interest.
> 
>  
> 
> SCIM or OAUTH?
> 
> -- Dick
> 
> 
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Anthony Nadalin <tony...@microsoft.com 
> <mailto:tony...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
> 
> I would be interested also
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
> 
>  
> 
> From: Gil Kirkpatrick <mailto:gil.kirkpatr...@viewds.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:16 AM
> To: 'Nat Sakimura' <mailto:n-sakim...@nri.co.jp>; 'Hardt, Dick' 
> <mailto:d...@amazon.com>; 'Phil Hunt (IDM)' <mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com>
> Cc: s...@ietf.org <mailto:s...@ietf.org>; oauth@ietf.org 
> <mailto:oauth@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [scim] [OAUTH-WG] Simple Federation Deployment
> 
>  
> 
> That’s an issue we’re facing as well. Definitely interested.
> 
>  
> 
> -gil
> 
>  
> 
> From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org <mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org>] 
> On Behalf Of Nat Sakimura
> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:57 PM
> To: 'Hardt, Dick' <d...@amazon.com <mailto:d...@amazon.com>>; 'Phil Hunt 
> (IDM)' <phil.h...@oracle.com <mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com>>
> Cc: s...@ietf.org <mailto:s...@ietf.org>; oauth@ietf.org 
> <mailto:oauth@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] [scim] Simple Federation Deployment
> 
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> 
> +1 for removing the manual cut-n-pastes!
> 
>  
> 
> Nat
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> From: scim [mailto:scim-boun...@ietf.org <mailto:scim-boun...@ietf.org>] On 
> Behalf Of Hardt, Dick
> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:26 AM
> To: Phil Hunt (IDM) <phil.h...@oracle.com <mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com>>
> Cc: s...@ietf.org <mailto:s...@ietf.org>; oauth@ietf.org 
> <mailto:oauth@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [scim] Simple Federation Deployment
> 
>  
> 
> I’m talking about removing manual steps in what happens today where 
> configuring a SaaS app at an IdP (such as Google, Azure, Ping, Octa) requires 
> is a bunch of cutting and pasting of access tokens / keys / certs and doing a 
> bunch of  config that is error prone and unique for each relationship.
> 
>  
> 
> Don’t want to solve on the thread … looking to see if there is interest!
> 
>  
> 
> On 4/5/16, 7:11 PM, someone claiming to be "scim on behalf of Phil Hunt 
> (IDM)" <scim-boun...@ietf.org <mailto:scim-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of 
> phil.h...@oracle.com <mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com>> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Is the idp the center of all things for these users?
> 
>  
> 
> Usually you have a provisioning system that coordinates state and uses things 
> like scim connectors to do this. 
> 
>  
> 
> Another approach from today would be to pass a scim event to the remote 
> provider which then decides what needs to be done to facilitate the thingd 
> you describe. 
> 
>  
> 
> Iow. Either the idp (sender) or the sp (receiver) have a provisioning system 
> to do this. 
> 
>  
> 
> The solution and the simplicity depends on where the control needs to be. 
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> On Apr 5, 2016, at 18:59, Hardt, Dick <d...@amazon.com 
> <mailto:d...@amazon.com>> wrote:
> 
> Use case: An admin for an organization would like to enable her users to 
> access a SaaS application at her IdP. 
> 
>  
> 
> User experience: 
> 
> Admin authenticates to IdP in browser
> Admin selects SaaS app to federate with from list at IdP
> IdP optionally presents config options
> IdP redirects Admin to SaaS app
> Admin authenticates to SaaS app
> SaaS app optionally gathers config options
> SaaS app redirects admin to IdP
> IdP confirms successful federation => OIDC / SAML and SCIM are now configured 
> and working between IdP and SaaS App
> Who else is interested in solving this?
> 
>  
> 
> Is there interest in working on this in either SCIM or OAUTH Wgs?
> 
>  
> 
> Any one in BA interested in meeting on this topic this week?
> 
>  
> 
> — Dick
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