OpenID ... ?

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Anthony Nadalin <tony...@microsoft.com>
wrote:

> Good question, since SCIM does not really provide an authorization model
> and Oauth does not do provisioning this is sort of caught in the middle, so
> if I had to pick I would pick Oauth as this is a generic server to server
> issue
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> *From:* Hardt, Dick [mailto:d...@amazon.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:52 AM
> *To:* Anthony Nadalin <tony...@microsoft.com>
> *Cc:* Gil Kirkpatrick <gil.kirkpatr...@viewds.com>; Nat Sakimura <
> n-sakim...@nri.co.jp>; Phil Hunt (IDM) <phil.h...@oracle.com>;
> s...@ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [scim] [OAUTH-WG] Simple Federation Deployment
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> Sounds like there is interest.
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> SCIM or OAUTH?
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> -- Dick
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> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Anthony Nadalin <tony...@microsoft.com> wrote:
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> I would be interested also
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> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
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> *From: *Gil Kirkpatrick <gil.kirkpatr...@viewds.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:16 AM
> *To: *'Nat Sakimura' <n-sakim...@nri.co.jp>; 'Hardt, Dick'
> <d...@amazon.com>; 'Phil Hunt (IDM)' <phil.h...@oracle.com>
> *Cc: *s...@ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org
> *Subject: *Re: [scim] [OAUTH-WG] Simple Federation Deployment
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> That’s an issue we’re facing as well. Definitely interested.
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> -gil
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> *From:* OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org <oauth-boun...@ietf.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Nat Sakimura
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:57 PM
> *To:* 'Hardt, Dick' <d...@amazon.com>; 'Phil Hunt (IDM)' <
> phil.h...@oracle.com>
> *Cc:* s...@ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] [scim] Simple Federation Deployment
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> +1 for removing the manual cut-n-pastes!
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> Nat
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> *From:* scim [mailto:scim-boun...@ietf.org <scim-boun...@ietf.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Hardt, Dick
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:26 AM
> *To:* Phil Hunt (IDM) <phil.h...@oracle.com>
> *Cc:* s...@ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [scim] Simple Federation Deployment
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> I’m talking about removing manual steps in what happens today where
> configuring a SaaS app at an IdP (such as Google, Azure, Ping, Octa)
> requires is a bunch of cutting and pasting of access tokens / keys / certs
> and doing a bunch of  config that is error prone and unique for each
> relationship.
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> Don’t want to solve on the thread … looking to see if there is interest!
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> On 4/5/16, 7:11 PM, someone claiming to be "scim on behalf of Phil Hunt
> (IDM)" <scim-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of phil.h...@oracle.com> wrote:
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> Is the idp the center of all things for these users?
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> Usually you have a provisioning system that coordinates state and uses
> things like scim connectors to do this.
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> Another approach from today would be to pass a scim event to the remote
> provider which then decides what needs to be done to facilitate the thingd
> you describe.
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> Iow. Either the idp (sender) or the sp (receiver) have a provisioning
> system to do this.
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> The solution and the simplicity depends on where the control needs to be.
>
> Phil
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> On Apr 5, 2016, at 18:59, Hardt, Dick <d...@amazon.com> wrote:
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> Use case: An admin for an organization would like to enable her users to
> access a SaaS application at her IdP.
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> User experience:
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>    1. Admin authenticates to IdP in browser
>    2. Admin selects SaaS app to federate with from list at IdP
>    3. IdP optionally presents config options
>    4. IdP redirects Admin to SaaS app
>    5. Admin authenticates to SaaS app
>    6. SaaS app optionally gathers config options
>    7. SaaS app redirects admin to IdP
>    8. IdP confirms successful federation => OIDC / SAML and SCIM are now
>    configured and working between IdP and SaaS App
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> Who else is interested in solving this?
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> Is there interest in working on this in either SCIM or OAUTH Wgs?
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> Any one in BA interested in meeting on this topic this week?
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> — Dick
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