Am 15.10.2010 19:52, schrieb David Recordon:
Hey Hannes, I'd like to at least explain my reasoning behind not planning to go to the China meeting because it really isn't restrictions around travel. This is likely inpolitic to say, but it's because of how much of a waste of my time the LA meeting was. The LA meeting contained numerous people who weren't – and still aren't – engaged in this working group who felt that they should argue with us repeatedly around how what we were doing was wrong and already solved by Kerberos. That trip was only two days, but China will easily be a week. So for me it is about what is the best use of my time, not just how much it costs.

I'd love to have another face to face meeting between people working actively on deploying OAuth 2.0. I hope that IIW in a few weeks will provide a venue for some of that. But if it's in Europe then I'll go to Europe. For me it is about who is (and isn't) going to be there rather than where the meeting is physically located.

I fully agree with you. Unfortunately, I had assumed to meet the WG people at IETF meetings and it's to late for me to arrange for a travel to IIW (mainly du to administrative proccess).

regards,
Torsten.

--David


On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) <hannes.tschofe...@nsn.com <mailto:hannes.tschofe...@nsn.com>> wrote:

    Hi Torsten,

    We have to figure out what the most efficient way is to get our work
    done.

    With the Prague IETF we will see again whether there is a need for
    face-to-face meeting. We had phone conference calls earlier this
    year as
    well. That's another option to make progress in addition to the
    usage of
    the mailing list.

    Attending the IETF meetings is useful to get a better understanding of
    the big picture and that's why I go there.  However, I understand that
    others have travel restrictions. Meetings outside the US, like
    this one,
    are obviously more expensive for those who are based in the US.

    Ciao
    Hannes

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    > What is the alternative from your point of view?
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    >  I agree with Hannes' approach.  What happened in Maastricht
    > was that we
    > ended up with  bifurcated discussions- in the room and on the list.
    > That didn't seem very productive.
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